Caveman vs the Archer

Here we are again. Traveling to New Orleans for what seems like our annual game against the Saints.

As usual, the 49ers will not be favored to win. They won last year’s game handily, in the game that cemented Colin Kaepernick as the team’s starting and future QB. The game actually turned on the two pick sixes the defense pulled off against Drew Brees, but most of the glory went to Colin.

It’s one year later now, and Kaepernick comes to town with media and fan arrows sticking out of his back, running the worst passing offense in the league. Last year, the team was 7-2-1. This year it’s 6-3.

Fortunately, the Saints defense is dead last against the run, which happens to be what the 49er offense does very well. If the defense is able to contain Brees somewhat, maybe the team can sneak out of town with a win. That is not a resounding “maybe,” though. More in the feeble gasp range.

LDE Ray McDonald will likely miss this game with a high ankle sprain, so perhaps we’ll finally get to see Tank Carradine rotated in for a few plays. We should find out today whether Vernon Davis and/or Eric Reid will be cleared to play after last Sunday’s concussions. Both of these guys are crucial to any hopes of winning this game.

The Saints seemed to be running away with the NFC South division until a couple of losses and a five game Panthers winning streak suddenly made this a dog fight. If the Saints lose Sunday and Carolina wins, it would be a tie atop the division. On the other hand, a 49er loss and a Cardinals’ win over Jacksonville would create a second place tie in the NFC West.

At least Saints’ LB Jonathan Vilma won’t be suited up Sunday. He was placed on IR last Monday. The same destination he sent Kyle Williams and Kendall Hunter last year — all on ONE play. Vilma is to the Niners what Bernard Pollard is to the Patriots — bad news.

Hunter has been pretty much the invisible guy this year, for some reason. The Niners seem to have a disturbing trend of stocking the roster with decent players that never get used. This is especially true at the WR position. Not that any of our invisible WRs are good, but how would you know? They never play.




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153 comments on “Caveman vs the Archer
  1. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Your thread title sounds like a Marvel or DC comic book story. BTW, I thought caveman was just one word. Look it up in the dictionary. “So easy even a caveman can do it.”

  2. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Happy now?

  3. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    All the passing game really needs is to use some quick patterns as primary so that the secondary reads don’t need to happen after 2.8 seconds. 80% of our primary reads are 20+ yards down field. Also, this week vs the Saints might not be the time to go away from the running game. But still, we need to shorten our primary reads for most passing plays.

    I think the reason most of our passing plays are designed to go deep is because their primary purpose is to back off the safeties for the running game, not because we feel we actually need a formidable passing attack. If that mis correct, then until the coaches attitude changes about this philosophy I don’t see us as a Super Bowl team. It worked last year because the league had not adjusted to Kaep’s skill set, this year they have adjusted and our coaching staff has yet to adjust to the leagues adjustments.

  4. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    All the passing game really needs is to use some quick patterns as primary so that the secondary reads don’t need to happen after 2.8 seconds. 80% of our primary reads are 20+ yards down field. Also, this week vs the Saints might not be the time to go away from the running game. But still, we need to shorten our primary reads for most passing plays.

    I think the reason most of our passing plays are designed to go deep is because their primary purpose is to back off the safeties for the running game, not because we feel we actually need a formidable passing attack. If that is correct, then until the coaches attitude changes about this philosophy I don’t see us as a Super Bowl team. It worked last year because the league had not adjusted to Kaep’s skill set, this year they have adjusted and our coaching staff has yet to adjust to the leagues adjustments.

  5. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Sorry for the double post. It took so long to post I thought it didn’t go through.

  6. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t think I’ll ever be happy. Especially when I’m the only one where 15 mins can’t save me 15% or more on car insurance.

  7. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    As I recall they killed the Aints with this play 2 years ago in the playoffs. It should be a Niner staple and used in every game.
    Whether they have VD, Bruce Miller or Vance Mcdonald chip blocking and then going out for the pass.
    Last night the Colts ran it with great success
    http://www.colts.com/videos/videos/Indianapolis-Colts-tight-end-Coby-Fleener-39-yard-gain/0953d5fc-2c00-4542-b101-146a619afea9

  8. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Wayne Newton’s former Las Vegas home is up for sale. A cool $48M.
    No danke schoen.

  9. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, I was thinking the same thing. I love that play. Sell the run one direction with the play fake and then have the TE block, release and cross. I remember that working with Brent Jones.

  10. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    In this highlight package more than half of the passes are the wheel route or some variation of it.
    If it works why not run it more often especially when nothing else is happening?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teVP3k7f0Xw

  11. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Painfully in the video Vernon scores against Carolina on a similar seam route that Mcdonald got stripped on last Sunday.

  12. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I believe there is some merit to being “old school”.
    Ball handling for a QB is a lost art and I’ve mentioned this in the past (a pet gripe).
    A QB should carry out all ball fakes and sell it to the defense.
    Too many times I see half assed piss poor efforts.
    I want to see Kap run a play action fake and hide the ball on his hip and that extra step the Defense takes locating the ball could result in a TD for you.
    It’s all in the details.

  13. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    Another guy I would add to the list of not until hell freezes over OC’s is Todd Haley.
    He has single handedly destroyed 2 franchises.
    I also have a similar view of Josh McDaniels simply because of his going all in with Tebow.

  14. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Since Buwwit enjoyed pointing out that COX isn’t the punt returner with two or three posts, let’s take a look at this gem:

    “If he remains healthy I project Vance McDonald will have 50 Catches 600 yds and 6 TDs.”

    My reply of course was that VM would be a ROY candidate with those numbers. You went off the deep end, per usual. This is the back up TE we’re talking about! Isn’t this fun, skippy? Juuuuuuuuuuuuust a tad shy there sport. Hope ya didn’t bet the farm on that one. I gave him 2.5 seasons to make those numbers. I’m the generous one . . .

    BTW, that’s the beauty of making predictions, Bullit. Sometimes they play out, sometimes they don’t.

    But here’s a little taste of your own medicine, post-digger.

  15. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    In case you missed it, the Warriors vs Thunder game last night
    was insane!
    Iggy won the game with a 17 foot fadeaway at the horn.
    Warriors 116 Thunder 115
    That was a great game between two elite teams.

  16. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    So it’s back to your juvenile name calling?
    If you would read I acknowledged the other day that McDonald wasn’t the player I was hoping he would be.
    However the season isn’t over yet and there is much more football left to play.

  17. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    For that matter, why the disappearance of Miller? He has had some nice plays these last few games, the sleeper route being the funniest, but the wheel route out of the backfield, he was solid on. Too bad he dropped the TD in the Seattle game, or this season might be a little different. He got the opening play last weekend, and then nothing.

    The thing is, I’m 80% sure they want to run deep routes with the WRs because they want to clear out the underneath for Kappy runs. Unfortuntely the WRs are not getting enough passes to even honor their routes, therefore Kappy is not getting the running lanes he did last year.

  18. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If we had WRs that demanded even a little respect, there’d be reluctance to pack the line. As it is, nope. VD HAS to be in this game. He was either hurt in or absent for all our losses this year.

    Juvenile? How dare you! That’s a well thought out and cogent name-call. Most of your posts are sofa king pointless that I may have glossed over that one. Tell me what the Niner chef is cooking up for the trip to Nawlins!!

    So yeah, VM will make that up by making 44 catches for 414 yards and 6 TDs in these last 7 games?

    Looks like you picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

    Carry on MacSkip . . .

  19. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    Let me refresh your faulty memory.
    I posted the link to the depth chart on 49ers.com which is the team website. It listed LMJ as the punt returner backed up by KW with Cox as 3rd string.
    My posting wasn’t my opinion. I was sharing a change in the depth chart that turned out to be fact.
    Yesterday Denny said that Reid might play on Sunday because Fangio said it was a good possibility in his press conference.
    In the same fashion you shot the messenger. Dennis wasn’t giving his opinion, just sharing news.
    Can you tell the difference before you go on the attack?

  20. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- Haley also got Arizona to their only Super Bowl. I don’t know enough about him to say I would take him or not. McDaniels would be a great OC for a QB like Kaep who likes to throw deep. He was terrible for Bradford who’s game is more horizontal. I wonder if he has learned to be more flexible these days, I’d guess yes.

  21. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck
    Does this mean I’m no longer on your Christmas card list?
    Are you going to start up your propaganda crusade to have me kicked off the blog?
    At least you can share that commonality with Spitblood which is
    if you can’t beat someone on an even playing field censor them.
    Not one of your finest moments sharing that sentiment with your BFF Spitty.

  22. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I hate to call Roman out on his specialty, the running game, but the reason the read option is not working is he is running it out of the wrong formations and spacing. If one paid attention in Reno while Ault was coaching here we learned the nuances of the offense. With the correct formation and spacing it will work just fine. We allow a team an extra man or two in the box with our choice of formations, which allows all options to be covered. Roman has bastardized the read option. This is an area where Kappy should be giving some advice to Roman.

  23. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- You were on unca’s Christmas card list? I never got a card from him once!

  24. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I agree, last night’s Warriors game was incredible. What a finish!

  25. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    What I’ve been waiting to see is 5 WR formations with ACTUAL WRs. Too many games Baldwin was inactive, Patton was inactive, and they’d end up using backup TEs and FBs for these formations. It negates the whole idea of what 5 WR formations are used for and what they are trying to accomplish.

    This is all getting SO reminiscient of the bad old days of Jimmy hat. Bland, unimaginitive play calling. When was the last time we ran no-huddle? Or a quick count? I mean, we don’t have to go all Chipo Kelly, but seriously, the plodding nature of this offense has been exposed by good defenses.

    Bergs, I sent your card bumfu**, Egypt. You didn’t get it? My bad . . .

    Tiger Beat called, Bullit. They want their moderator back.

    I say I wouldn’t be surprised to see COX returning punts, as KW was on his way out, and you post 3 times what an idiot I am? Glad to give you meaning to your pathetic existence. Grow up, skippy.

  26. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    When I’m wrong I am man enough to admit it unlike some people here who are really petty.
    I posted the following on

    November 2, 2013 at 8:42 am

    At the halfway point I thought they would use V McDonald more as a receiver since there is no #2 WR.

    Vance has proven to be more of a blocker and the disappointing thing is he is more than capable of going down the seams of zones for 20 yd gains. Lately Vance is not even being targeted as a receiver.

  27. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Speak not the name of the Troll King, lest he manifest to again trouble the kingdom. 😉

  28. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Matt Barrows just tweeted
    “Vernon Davis, Eric Reid appear to be going through their simulated contact concussion drills right now”

    Disclaimer: Just info shared and not my opinion.

  29. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Which is just how we like it, Buwwitt.

  30. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t worry, Grump. The village has its idiot back. But, this blog has its own.

    What about when yer a dickhead, Buwwitt? The Niners were working out COX at PR, so I say they’ll go ahead and make the switch since KW’s on the outs. Here’s Buwwitt’s reply:

    “Denny

    How dare you question Chuck’s take on all things 49er?

    Remember last week when he said categorically that Perrish Cox would be the 49er Punt Returner against Carolina?

    Oops! Never mind!”

    ——————————-

    Wow, mighty cool of you, Buwwitt! I didn’t categorically state anything. I said I think they’ll move him there since KW was likely to be shipped out so you giddily post drivel like this. Or scan the archives for 4 year old posts to laugh at. Grow up, skippy.

    —————

    Another dickless dickhead post from He Who Has No Life:

    “Before the season Chuck, you also stated emphatically that Fangio’s defense would go down the toilet based on his past coaching history.
    How’s that working out for you so far?”

    —————

    Reality:
    I said before the season started that during Fangio’s tenure in various places, his defenses have gotten statistically worse. Never did I say this was going to happen. In fact I was totally on board with losing Goldson and getting Reid. But to Nuckfut, I emphatically said that the Niners would have the worst defense in NFL history.

    I know how you others so enjoy this banter, but I won’t sit here and take Buwwitt’s blatant and continuous lying about what I post without replying.

    PS. Turn your unrequited love somewhere else, Zippy. It’s getting embarassing.

  31. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    Nothing like seeing somebody twist and turn and walk back comments. Way to stick to your guns.

    Actually the context of the discussion was you assumed that Fangio would be fired and that’s why Mangini is on standby as a consultant.
    You ranted about this for several posts.

    Shall I reproduce your post where you admit to making stuff up?

    Speaking of lies you never did produce all the negative things I allegedly said about Paul Hofer.
    See I think the world of this guy so why would I besmirch him?

    I asked you for the evidence. Your integrity is at stake here. Looking for an exit so you can cut and run?

  32. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    NO’s 23rd vs the run. At least in yards/game. Not that I’m one to quibble. Anyhow, this game is pretty much make-or-break for the playoffs. Lose this, and they are hoping for other teams to help them get in.

    The Niners currently hold the 6th seed. Drop this one and they’ll have to win out to hope to reach the playoffs. Losing to Seattle again may be the death knell.

    Sucks to be on the precipice. Maybe they’ll surprise me and get NO on their heels. As banged up as we are, and the vast ineptitude of the passing game, gives me little hope that we can keep up with NO at home. 10-6 enough to get in? I’d think so but that could change.

    Granted, we’ve got more talent than any of these other teams, but GB could get Rodgers back before Thanksgiving for a run at the last spot. Course, we own that tiebreaker. The AZ game in Phoenix could very well determine the last playoff spot should these others (Chi, GB, Philly with the oustside shot).

    Sure, there’s a lot of time. But this team doesn’t look like they can do much in the playoffs should they even get there. If so, this team may be falling victim to the 3rd year cures the last two head coaches succumed to.

  33. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    curse, that is

  34. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    From PFT:

    49ers at Saints

    The 49ers ruled out defensive tackle Ray McDonald (ankle) and listed tight end Garrett Celek (hamstring) as doubtful. They have more hope for tight end Vernon Davis (concussion), wide receiver Mario Manningham (knee), running back Bruce Miller (hamstring), safety Eric Reid (concussion) and linebacker Dan Skuta (foot) after listing them as questionable. Concussions will keep Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro and tight end Benjamin Watson off the field for the Saints. Tight end Jimmy Graham (elbow, foot) and safety Malcolm Jenkins (knee) are set to return.

  35. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Unless something strange happens it looks like VD and Eric Reid
    will play on Sunday.
    http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/49ers-notes-davis-reid-pace-play-vs-saints

  36. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    To illustrate how foolish some of the crap you say is, remember just a few days ago when you were chiding me for quoting a Football Outsiders saying most sacks happen around 2.8 seconds and you went on and on how stupid I was and that 5 seconds was the average time a QB had to throw?

    Stumbled upon this chestnut that you posted on 9/23 at 11:15am
    “80% of the pass plays, Kappy has 2 seconds or less to release the ball. How we respond to this is to change nothing.
    .
    THIS is the problem.”

    Those again are your unedited words.

    The conclusion is you always just take the opposing viewpoint to be the big bully and to be argumentative.
    You have one bad case of Napoleon complex (little man syndrome).

  37. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    From Maiocco:

    The 49ers rewarded safety Michael Thomas, a second-year member of the team’s practice squad, with a pay raise. Clearly, Thomas has been performing well as part of the scout team in practices after being among the team’s final cuts the past two seasons.

    “It’s a sign I’ve been doing well,” Thomas said, “and they’re basically saying, ‘Keep doing a great job.’”

    The 49ers made the rare move to increase Thomas’ weekly pay from $6,000, the minimum for practice squad players, to $8,823.52 a week, according to a source.

    Thomas is the only player on the 49ers’ eight-member practice squad who is making more than the league minimum. And it also seems to be evidence the 49ers envision Thomas as a player who can make an impact on the 53-man roster in the future.

    Thomas (5 foot 11, 197 pounds) has additional value for his ability to play the slot. Veteran Donte Whitner is scheduled to be an unrestricted free agent at the end of the season.

    The 49ers signed Thomas as an undrafted 2012 free agent from Stanford, where he played for coach Jim Harbaugh and defensive coordinator Vic Fangio. He outlasted 2012 draft pick Trenton Robinson, who signed with Philaladelphia’s practice squad after final cuts and currently is on Washington’s 53-man roster.

  38. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Bonus content from Balls Deep Sports on the Aints offense
    and why they’re so tough
    http://www.ballsdeepsportsblog.com/?p=2774

  39. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- What a great analogy to our team. The first two plays had great design with multiple depth options, very much not like anything I ever see from Roman. The third play looked like one of ours with all three routes going deep and no short option. And of course, it failed. I think Roman must have called the third play!

  40. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    The All 22 or coach’s film gives you the true perspective of the game from a coaching strategy standpoint and watch plays evolve and how a defense counters.
    Your normal over the air broadcast gives you the point of view that the network and director want you to view because it simply follows the ball.

  41. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    In my above post I should have not have written “ever”. That word should have been “usually”.

  42. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The real funny thing, Bullit, is the article overwhelmingly supports my point of view, and you are too dense to understand that. If the average sack takes 2.8 seconds, in this case, 3 isn’t enough. Get it? Kappy barely has 2 seconds to throw a lot of the time anyway, so as I’ve said repeatedly the offensive ‘geniuses’ need to design plays that get the ball out of Kappy’s hand faster. Max protect bsrely works as the pass blocking rarely can block 6 on 5 without some kind of breakdown.

    If Kappy consistently only gets 3 seconds to throw, the Niners will lose. Most any team will lose. See? You seem to think that those magic 2/10s of a seconds are some kind of meaningful difference.

  43. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bulltt, you seriously need to get a hobby besides waiting for baited breath for my posts. Spitty kicked you to the curb?

  44. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    Keep flip flopping and showing how football ignorant you really are.
    This moronic statement comes out of your mouth
    “You seem to think that those magic 2/10s of a seconds are some kind of meaningful difference.”
    How stupid are you? Football is measured in 10ths of seconds.
    Big difference between a 4.4 guy and a 4.6 and it is quite significant.
    Of course Chuck although clueless, just likes to argue, flip flop and then stick his head up his poop chute.

  45. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Seahawks have released QB B.J. Daniels.”

  46. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Let’s see how Tolzien holds up against a NYG team trying to salvage their Season Skeebs.
    My guess is there’s going to be A LOT of running tomorrow.

    Tolzien has WR weapons over there in Cheese Town.
    Should be an interesting game.
    Both teams are trying to keep pace in their respective Divisions.

  47. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Derek Carrier was just promoted to the 53 from the practice squad.

  48. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, from the last thread regarding my opinion on D-Cos confusing Kaep.
    I didn’t record the game so I’m not able to give you specific examples but….Very often I saw Carolina give him a pre-snap read which he more often than not, cancelled out of.

    He’s still too raw to pick apart a good D on the pre-snap view IMO.

    I think we agree regarding the 2 calls in the huddle approach however.
    Teams are forcing him to cancel his first read and beating him on the audible.

  49. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Let’s not get too far ahead of Kaeps’ growth curve either.
    He needs to learn how to survive in the pocket and believe what’s he’s seeing from the Defense.

    I’m not one to freak out over game to game performances.
    He’s young, he’s learning.
    One thing he has working for him is Harbaugh.
    No doubt in my mind he’ll be a good one, it just won’t happen as quickly as everyone in the media seems to think it will.

  50. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- We don’t use pre-snap reads for the purpose of finding the hot receiver or a mismatch. Our pre-snap reads are for ‘let it roll’ or ‘kill’.

    Kaep is plenty smart. I would give him more freedom and even implore him, to look for those kind of advantages but I would also call plays to give him better options to choose from. Those type of reads have to be taught to the receivers and backs, and even the linemen. If Kaep was misreading you’d see a receiver run a hot and not get the ball thrown to them. Our receivers do not run hot routes. The deal is our plays take too long to develop and by the time Kaep has to come back for a 2nd read he is under fire.

    You and I will agree to disagree, he is being put at an enormous disadvantage by the play calling when the running game is not doing it’s part.

  51. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    No argument there Berger.
    He’s getting elementary reads and 2 options to use.

    I think we’re skinning the same issue here.
    I’m well aware that the WRs and TE’s and anyone else engaged in the patterns have to see the Defense and adjust.

    We’re very one dimensional and good Defenses know it.

    Again, I’m with Kaep for the most part, he didn’t play a stellar game last week because he looked confused to me.

    For whatever reason, he’s at a disadvantage when he can’t run his way out of trouble.
    Carolina hemmed him in and brought pressure in his face.
    Have to get better as an Offense on the whole.
    Yes, that involves Roman and the other guys on Offense too.

    Kaep held the ball a little too long in some situations, made poor throws in others.
    It happens.

    I’m not trying to crucify the kid. I think he’s his own worst critic.
    No doubt he’s working to prove he just had a bad day.

  52. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    David Shaw and Jim Harbaugh have made watching my two favorite teams a living hell. I hope they both rot there. Stanford just had to burn a TO on its third play of the game. They followed that with a false start, then another TO. Unbelievable. I hate them both.

  53. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I’m serious. Stanford and the 49ers use an offense that is so diametrically opposed to everything I believe in and want to see from that side of the ball. It’s archaic. It’s boring. And most of all, it’s no fun to watch.

    Football has become a tedious chore. I want to be entertained.

  54. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, Berger! The USC PK just missed the PAT wide right.
    Wanna guess his number?

  55. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Del- Being the caring and listening friend that I am I’ve provided you with some entertainment!

    http://youtu.be/lMb10o_iVnE

  56. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Stanford just ran a hot read smoke route. I wonder if Roman took any notes?

  57. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Thank you my friend. I needed that. Watching the cancan put a smile on my face, got my fingers a snappin’ and my toes a tappin’.

    Watching football lately is like pulling teeth. And I’m talking Three Stooges tie a string at one end and the doorknob at the other pulling teeth. That never works.

  58. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Marty Mornhinweg’s son, Skyler, is making his first ever start at QB for Rob’s Gators tonight vs the Gamecocks. Not too shabby for his first time.

    There’s Rob and cocks in the same sentence again.

  59. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Shit, I thought the offseason was bad. Or the bye week. The time between that last crap-ass game and this one is nearly as brutal. The problem is, it’s a little of everything. Kappy missed a couple early opportunities, he’s locking on his first read at times, the play-calling has been unimaginative at best, and the line play was awful. Tomorrow is make-or break.

    Problem is, they can fox some of this shit as still get their ass handed to them.

    Wow, Bullit. 40 times are the same as time in the pocket? Think much?

    That’s ludicrous even for you.

  60. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    fix, that is.

    Poop chute, Buwwitt? Gawd. Act like you at least made it out of grade school. Tell me again how running in a straight line equals time in the pocket? Duuuuuuuh.

    Yer fishing for clues, and nothing’s biting.

  61. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    What difference does a play caller make? Look at USC’s play calling with Lane Kiffen and their play calling now. It doesn’t even look like the same team even though it is all the same players.

  62. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    So with USC was it the players or the coaching? Biggest difference is the quality of the play calling.

  63. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    We used to say the same thing about Harbaugh, Bergs.

    Their play calling seems to be reverting to an earlier time.

  64. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    unca- It’s just baffling knowing that Harbaugh played QB for so many years in the NFL. Either he is giving Roman too much reign or it must be the Schembechler factor? Could it be something else?

  65. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Roman = Kiffen. It is really just that simple.

  66. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I’m baffled myself. When Hunter went down last year and LMJ got some playing time, they adapted some by getting him outside and out in space. Everything these days seems to be up the middle or short outs.

    Kappy is having his struggles, but again, I think there needs to be adjusting by the coaches to get him in more favorable situations. Quicker passes. Misdirection. Wheel routes. Things we used to do.

  67. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Can anyone explain how the NYG get GB this week at 4:25PM ET at home followed by the Cowpatties next week also at home at 4:25PM ET?

    Seems like everytime SF plays in the Eastern Time Zone we play at 1PM?

    Pretty effed up if you ask me.

  68. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- Do you know something I don’t? I’ve got the 49er game on at 4:25 EST tomorrow?

  69. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yeh we’re a West Coast team Berger. Catching a break tomorrow playing late.
    But…
    Everytime I’ve been to a 9er/NYG game out here, it’s been a 1PM game.
    How the heck does GB and Dallas get a 4PM game in the ETzone?

    Seems like something fishy is going on when West Coast teams come East normally.

  70. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I just want to see GB lose.
    They should without Aaron.

    Just can’t see why they’re playing late, especially with the shorter travel distance.

  71. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    There really is no point trying to reason with a clueless, know nothing, blowhard, football illiterate because fundamental concepts are beyond his comprehension and mental capabilities.
    This statement should be a clue to the moron that said it
    “Tell me again how running in a straight line equals time in the pocket? Duuuuuuuh.”

    I suppose the terms pass rush and speed rushers have nothing to do with a QB’s time in the pocket. It is incredible how dense you are.

    Just keep convincing yourself you know everything and are always right. If you tell yourself something enough times you’ll believe in it. Keep flip flopping and spinning because it’s pitiful.

  72. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Another terrific video preview of today’s game in case you missed it. Touchdown to checkdowns.
    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-playbook/0ap2000000282009/Playbook-49ers-vs-Saints

  73. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Another terrific video followed with a preview of Alex Smith’s game:
    Checkdowns to out of bounds.

  74. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- That last play they showed on the film was the classic example I’ve been talking about. There were three running open immediately but not one receiver looked back, ergo nobody to throw to. Who’s fault was that?

    Therein lies the debate. Does the QB call the hot? Hard to do when most of the time is spent calling two plays. Should the receivers see that situation and the coach have already taught the procedures. That is my argument. If you want the QB to recognize that and call for a hot, teach it.

    I do agree that should be the QBs call but do we allow that. Alex Smith said a couple weeks ago, in KC they don’t put the restrictions on him that the 49ers did. Is that what he meant? It is very possible that is exactly what he meant.

  75. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Aldon Smith becomes a large part of this game. The way we beat the Saint last year was by constant harassment of Bree’s when he went back to pass. If there isn’t any pressure (say 4-5 seconds in the pocket) Brees will pick us apart.

    Btw buwwitt, when you said 4.4 to 4.6 you were referring to 40 times, no? That’s what people who understand football take from those numbers. Unless you agree with me that now it’s 4.6 seconds in the pocket you are referring to. Revising yer numbers, eh? Oh, I get it. You think straight line speed translates to pass rushing ability. Yeah, that Bob Hayes was a hell of a pass rusher. As was Renaldo Nehemiah. Rage on Don Quixotic.

  76. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    Spin, spin, spin. Fit that square peg into that round hole.
    It is hard to interact with somebody that doesn’t have a clue.
    If you don’t get it I can’t help you unless you help yourself.
    Too bad for you so just keep talking in circles and making a fool of yourself with your jibberish flip flops.

    You’re a troll that just seeks a pissing contest.

  77. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    To quash the lamebrained notion that a QB has on average 5 seconds to make a throw I present evidence of film study of every QB throw in 2012 which Football Outsiders put a stopwatch on. Reading this all will understand with the exception of one.
    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/07/signature-stat-snapshot-time-to-throw/

  78. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Wow it just keeps getting better and better.

    Mr ignorant to all things concerning football says:

    “Oh, I get it. You think straight line speed translates to pass rushing ability.”

    No comment needed from me.

  79. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Drew Brees and Jimmy Graham: potentially very bad news for our defense, but very good news for my fantasy team. I can’t bench ’em. It’s not like I have Manning and VD on my bench.

  80. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    That long Foles to Celek TD was reversed, and rightfully so. His knee was down. That hurt a couple of Outsiders in the pts. dept.

  81. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Dance, little sister, dance . . .

  82. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, I think Megatron and Stafford are canceling each other out fantasy-wise in our ESPN league. They’re both on pace to break the all-time yds. record in their respective categories. Have a day.

    A Niner QB and/or WR break an NFL yardage record?
    That’s a hoot.

  83. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    TB is taking ATL out to the woodshed. The Falcons gave up on their season a few weeks ago. Shameful.

  84. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck Bednarik, speed rusher . . .

  85. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The whole league is skittering to the brink of mediocrity, Dennis. Most teams with decent records have gotten fat at the expense of shit teams. Niners included. KC and Denver haven’t beaten anyone of note. Indy, the outlier has beaten some of the best teams but lost to some of the downtrodden. Strange year to say the least.

  86. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    It has occurred to me that Roman has reduced the Pistol Offense to the Roman Candle Offense (RCO). It would probably work well on July 4th.

  87. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Denny

    You have Antonio Brown and his bumblebee uniform and the Bungle defense to thank for your lead.

  88. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, that’s your best acronym yet — the RCO. The Roman Candle Offense. I love it. But just like when you buy cheap fireworks off the street corner, good chance your Roman Candle will be a dud.

  89. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Did someone forget to bring some matches? The RCO has yet to be lit. 3 and out…3 and out…

  90. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers, Bullit, anyone, please. Find out our “replay booth coach” who is making all of these outrageous and misinformed challenges that Harbaugh takes to be solid gold.

    There has to be changes. There must be changes. Simply inexcusable.

  91. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    But I’ll say this. Regardless of the culprit. This, like our inept RCO, all comes back to one man…

    Did we fire Jim Harbaugh yet?

  92. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Can’t say I like our chances in the 2nd half. Could be a blowout.

  93. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Blowout? Niners take the lead, 17-14. Our “Cave Man” host, is correct again. 😀

  94. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs

    Not so fast.
    Defense came to play.
    Did I say Rob Ryan is a FREAK and I can’t stand that guy.

  95. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    But I’ll say this, we certainty don’t DESERVE to win this game.
    Well, at least not yet…

  96. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Now these zebras suck.
    On 4 different occasions the Aints CBs have been grabbing the jersey going down field.
    WTF???????

  97. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I hate settling for 3 pts. That used to infuriate my Mom (God rest her soul) beyond belief. It was an extra count of Smirnoff into her screwdriver at that time. 😀

  98. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    We got lucky there…Sean Payton went into RCO mode on that 3rd and goal and ran the ball.

    That’s asinine beyond belief. Moms is pouring herself a drink on that one…

  99. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    We had this lose coming…

  100. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    You don’t and shouldn’t win many games where your team has negative net yardage in the 4th quarter.

  101. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    BTW, Dennis, it was Mangini that Harbaugh talked to before making those two ridiculous challenges.

  102. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Kap’s inexperience is getting really obvious.
    The play that summed up today was Kap trying to line up Carrier
    and then trying to call a timeout and realizing he didn’t have one. He totally lost his composure. He should’ve run that play and tried to get some yardage even if he had to keep the ball instead of standing there and taking the delay of game.

  103. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Brees threw for more yards in the 4th quarter than Kap had for the entire game.

  104. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I was going to suggest the guy up in the booth telling Harbaugh to challenge was Stevland Hardaway Morris.
    He’s from Detroit.

  105. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers, thank you.
    That “Mangenius” hire is looking better by the day.

  106. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    OK. Our Niner game is over. Time to *try* and turn the page…
    Chiefs and Broncos. Alex Smith and Peyton Manning.
    Who here is picking Alex to win?
    Who here WANTS Alex to win? (Berger) I’m sure there are others..

  107. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Our regular season is over. Would you guys rather play PHI or DAL in the WC round? That’s the fact, Jack. At least I’m trying to tell myself that so I don’t have to overdose on Vicodin and sleeping pills…

  108. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Someone after the game said Mangina was responsible for the red flags. Brilliant. He and Maraathe must be sharing notes.

    And the call on Bowman was pretty much horseshit and it changed the game.

    Dennis, do us a favor and . . .

    There are a lot of shitty teams under us. We are the most talented shitty team at this point.

  109. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The Play calling was better today. Not great but better. We had many more 1st reads on shorter patterns. Can somebody tell me why Baldwin was running half speed and then when he finally looked back the ball was sailing over his head. If he runs full speed he probably gets a pass interference call. That play could make him the one who is cut when Crabs comes back.

  110. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Blame anybody you want but if Frank makes that catch we win. Period, end of story.

  111. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Osgood is probably going to say he did not see the fair catch but that is his job and even if he didn’t, don’t we yell fair catch when it is signaled? You would think so. I would have my team yelling it out if I were the coach.

    Why is Kaep running out of bounds? Is his head wedged up his butt? If he kisses his arm when he does something good he should kiss my ass when he does something like that.

  112. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The point made that the WRs are shit remains valid. Baldwin was not bothering to look for the ball heading his way. Kappy slid when he should have dove for the 1st down. He goes OB 5 yards short. Gore’s drop was monumental. As was the horseshit call on Bowman on the sack/fumble. ANd yeah, NOs DBs got away with a lot of grabbing out there,

  113. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The sack fumble call was the biggest BS call of the Season IMO.
    It was Brooks that nailed him.
    Clean hit, can’t make that call when the QB is holding the ball in the pocket.
    He’s fair game between the shoulders and the knees.

    Homer call if ever there was one.
    And once again, Kaep isn’t making quick decisions in crunch time.
    I can’t blame Frank so much on that dropped passed that likely would’ve iced the game.
    Kaep under threw it IMO.
    Put it up and out front, you can’t break his momentum in that situation.

    No complaints with Roman today. Short of taking some shots deep on 1st down, I think he had a pretty decent day.
    Can’t say the same for Kaep.

  114. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Frank drops a ball thrown at his upper thigh that should have been caught without breaking stride. QB was throwing on the run, no excuse for that ball not being caught in stride and taken to the house.

  115. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, hitting Gore in the hands, it wasn’t that bad a pass at all. No deep shots still pisses me off. The deepest ball we threw Baldwin didn’t bother looking for. Their DBs constantly barely bothered sticking with the WRs on the plays I could see. Teams pay NO attention to our deep game as we never even try it.

  116. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We beat Malcom Jenkins. Once.
    I’d have gone after him more often.
    He’s replacing Vaccaro and missed time with an injury.
    Should have taken advantage.

    Nice to Baldwin getting some time however. Tough break on the bobbled TD though.
    He’s a big target with some decent hands.
    Need to get him involved.

    Also, WE NEED A FAT MAN IN THE MIDDLE.

  117. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    KC shoulda gone for it there. They are toast now

  118. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Frank will take the blame as he always does Berger but, that ball was in a tough place. He had to turn back for it.
    Kaep could have led him in that situation, he was breaking away.
    Tough pill to swallow for sure.

    We had our chances. Didn’t make enough plays.

  119. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, we got help from NYG and Pittsburgh today.
    We need to get this Offense back on the rails.

  120. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Baldwin giving up on the deep ball was lame. If he at least runs his route, he may have been able to catch the ball. Or draw a penalty. And Osgood may have penalized himself into the unemployment line with that penalty.

  121. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Seen too much half-assing it from the WRs.

  122. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The ball hit Frank in a bad spot, the hands. No excuse to not catch that in stride. Frank had better take the blame for that play or he is a chump. It was his fault 100%.

  123. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’d rather have Lockette than Baldwin. At least he is fast enough to spread the defense. And I’m pretty sure he would run harder, Baldwin looks lost out there.

  124. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We’re Offensively challenged to be sure.
    Couple of nice back shoulder throws to Anquan today.
    That was nice to see.

    Baldwin?
    He’s got to get some game experience with Kaep.
    No, he isn’t Calvin Johnson but, he’s a big target.

    Berger you know Frank wants that play back, no question.
    I’m just saying, it wasn’t smooth.
    I can’t hang Frank on that one alone. Ball needs to be out front.
    Kaep will develop more touch if we run those plays more frequently at game speed.
    Roman had it nailed on that call. We didn’t execute.

  125. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    For a Saints Defense that sucks and swallows against the run, we didn’t do squat against them today.
    I’d have taken more shots with the screen game and over the top.
    I’m not convinced that Kaep is comfortable enough in the pocket at this point in his career.

    He’s not seeing the entire field or, reading Defenses well enough yet.
    He’s gotta slow things down mentally.
    I’m sure he’ll figure it out. Just hope he does it before the stretch run.

  126. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’m a big Frank fan but I hang that play on Frank alone. No excuse to not catch that ball in stride and take it to the house. Marcus Colston caught an important pass in the 4th quarter that was not a perfect throw. I guess our receivers need perfect throws. Other teams make catches, we make excuses, blaming the QB. You would think Alex Smith was still here.

  127. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Colston catches a whole lot more passes than Frank does.
    All I’m saying is, it should have been easier.

    No, I don’t think Alex is still here, far from it.
    I don’t like seeing easy plays made diffcult.

    I’m betting Kaep will accept his share of the blame too.
    All things considered, we didn’t execute it as it was designed.
    Sucks for us.

  128. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Saw one pitch play to LMJ, something I’d been hoping we’d attempt with him.
    We’re not attacking the edges with any conviction.
    Something Roman needs to work at IMO.

    We’re just clunking along instead of showing any urgency to get into a rhythm.
    Frustrating is as simple as I can put it.

  129. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Frank is a great RB who has always been a second tier receiver. Not terrible, but far from a Roger Craig out of the backfield. It’s more noticeable because our WRs are so inept right now. Jon Baldwin did his best Stevie Wonder / Ted Ginn imitation on the one deep ball. Ugly.

    The Saints did everything they could to fumble this game away. The 49ers did everything required to give it back. Kappy deserves his share of the raspberries but he is far from the only one who is not playing well.

    The coaching and challenges in the first half were painful to watch. Almost – but not quite – as painful as watching our offense in the 4th quarter. Changes need to be made. But my guess is, G-Ro gets thrown under the bus after the season, but that does nothing to change Harbaugh’s game management and passing game shortfalls. This is not Michigan in the 70s and Bo Schembechler football will not win in the NFL without a passing game.

  130. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Then why did Frank make it so difficult? Catch the ball in stride and run. That was extremely far from being a difficult catch. I’m just calling it the way it happened. Reality is reality. Kaep made a nice throw on the run, very catchable and Frank dropped it. It was an easy catch. Any back that doesn’t catch that pass screwed up.

  131. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    There’s no real flow to this Offensive attack Grump.
    We should be seeing more combo routes, crossing and dump offs IMO.
    It’s vanilla at best.

    Can’t believe the challenge of the Baldwin juggle either.
    Wondering if the booth is seeing the TV feed that we all see in real time?
    That was a wasted challenge and should never have been attempted.
    Clearly he didn’t control it, though he did an excellent job of getting his toes down and snatching the ball in the first place.

    We got some help from the NYG however.
    GB could slide out the back door if we can just get this air game in order and get some WINS.

  132. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The challenge of Bree’s being over the Los was even worse. He was a yard .5 behind the Los. It wasn’t remotely close to being over the line.

    Thank God Mangina took over for Maraage in red flag duties.

  133. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’m done beating the Frank drop subject for the night. We will need to agree to disagree. If our backs can’t make catches like that we are at a major disadvantage. Other team’s backs make that catch, ours obviously don’t rate very high on the expectation scale.

  134. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Blown play Berger. No debate.
    Easily could be the play that cost us the game.

  135. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Kaepernick I saw in last year’s playoff game against the Packers sure looked a lot faster than this year’s Kap.
    That Kaeprenick was decisive and ran while the DBs had their backs turned chasing receivers.
    Last year he was pulling away from the Packer secondary.
    Right now the way Kap’s passing game is going (127 yds passing)
    I’d encourage him to run just so it can open up the passing game.
    If he sees a running lane where he can pick up 10 yds he should take it. Kap’s waiting for receivers to come open isn’t working.
    By the time he decides to run passing isn’t an option and the DBs
    are in a position to stop him as the WRs work their way back.

  136. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Iupati left the locker room on crutches so he could be out for
    a week or two if not longer. It was determined he had a knee issue.
    I suppose Snyder is in front of Kilgore on the depth chart because that’s who replaced Iupati, and that’s a little disappointing.

  137. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I agree Bullit.
    Kaep is looking timid.
    On one hand I’m thinking Harbaugh wants him to stand and deliver from the pocket.
    On the other, maybe he’s just too slow to recognize what’s right in front of him.

    As for Iupati, I’m 50/50 on whether we’ll retain his services for a second Contract.
    We’ve gotta figure to lose TBrown in favor of Wright perhaps?
    Crabtree/Aldon/Kaep are also at the threshold of extensions.
    Can’t pay them all.

    I’d keep an OG on the Draft List for May at this point.
    We’re certainly not going to overspend on Kaep at this point I’d hope.
    He’s definitely having some sophomore skids here of late.

    No need panic. Just hope Iupati can recover and contribute again quickly.

  138. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I have to question the Offensive philosophy on the whole however.
    There’s just no imagination visible in big spots.
    Yeh, we’ve got WR issues but, there’s no easy outlets to be seen.
    Can we spread someone out?
    Work the edges?
    Mis-direction?

    No creativity.

  139. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    You got that right.
    No imagination. Run a reverse or an RB option pass or flea flicker.
    The only trick play they’ve used is the Big Sleeper with Bruce Miller.
    When LMJ is coming in you know it’s going to be a read option.
    On the short yardage plays like 3rd and 2 fake the handoff into the line and at have Kap run a naked bootleg.

  140. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    As I said earlier Kap trying to call timeout when he had none and just standing there and taking the penalty for delay was demoralizing.
    Snap the ball and run it on a keeper and you might get 3 yards.
    To me that was robotic and showed a lack of confidence if not awareness.
    The book on the Niners is show them a certain defense and then shift into another so opposing DCs are outwitting the Niners.
    Stop calling 2 plays because it’s not working.

  141. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    I was telling Berger I would draft a QB in the second round just to compete with Kap.
    Both Kap and Aldon were sure fire big money contracts at the start of the year. That is not certain anymore.
    Aldon didn’t do much today and Lemonier has disappeared being outplayed by Skuta.

  142. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yeh Bullit, I use the simple word frustrating to describe our Offense of late.
    Can’t keep the Defense on the field all afternoon and give them no support Offensively.

    I’m all for a QB selection too. I’m no fan of Colt McCoy.
    We need to get this thing back on the rails. Quickly.
    Kaep is looking like he’s lost his edge. Not good.
    Harbaugh needs to get these guys into a groove of some sort and settle this nonsense down.

    2 losses in a row can fester if they don’t figure it out.

  143. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    With all the Picks Baalke has in his pocket we can make a splash move or 2 if they can identify a solid addition.

    I’m still in search of a Fat Man in the Middle.
    We need a plugger. Aldon is getting his legs back I’m sure but, we don’t collapse the pocket well enough or command attention inside beyond Justin.
    We’ve got some issues to address if we expect to be around for the Playoffs.

  144. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Not real impressed with Snyder as an answer to Iupati either.
    Whats up with Looney?
    Is he even a consideration at this point?

    Many questions.
    Few answers at this point.

  145. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Colt McCoy is making minimum wage as the backup.
    Right now although there is no comparison to their physical abilities I can say with extreme confidence that McCoy can read a defense better and make quicker decisions than Kap simply because he is more experienced.
    If nothing else I hope Kap has learned a lot from these 2 losses.
    I just saw the stat that Kap was 1-for-7 on passes of 15 yards or more.

  146. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Something has to get righted Bullit.
    Maybe Harbaugh should get McCoy some reps just to grab Kaeps’ attention?
    I’m at a loss for an explanation to this mess.
    We really need a shot of adrenaline from someone/somewhere.

    I had hoped LMJ could bring that but he’s just getting his feet wet right now.

  147. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Simplify the routes? Run some stretch plays?
    I don’t know. We’re banging our heads against a wall right now.
    Redskins can score points too.
    I don’t take anyone lightly now.
    We don’t deserve to considered a Playoff caliber team right now.

    Need a confidence boost to juice this Offense up.
    Baldwin needs to go off on the ‘Skins Secondary.
    Get some heat off Vernon and Anquan.
    Mario is helping but, Kaep isn’t seeing the entire field.

    Again. FRUSTRATING.

  148. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    For me, LMJ on short crossing routes could easily loosen the box.

    All this presnap motion garbage isn’t fooling too many Defenses lately.
    Looks as though we’ve hit the ceiling with that garbage.
    Time for something to get pulled from the hat of surprises.

  149. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    To your point about the 15yd passes, he’s not throwing people open.

    I think his problem is ‘touch’ passes right now.
    He’s a fast-baller into tight windows thrower for the most part.

    Could be that the routes are too slow to develop too?
    Can’t figure this mess out.

  150. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’d be happy to see Roman put Kaep on the move too.
    Yeh, it cuts the field in half but, it buys time which I think is what he’s missing right now.
    Gotta try something fresh. Anything.

  151. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    As for the Brooks sack, I’d ask how the hit on Peyton’s lower leg didn’t get flagged?

    I’d interpret that hit by Corey Luiget of SD to be much more contentious,than that of Brooks’ hit, if the Refs want to take issue about QB injuries.

    If there’s a silver lining somewhere, we didn’t necessarily lose, so much as gave it away.

    Gotta get this steamin’ pile of dung Offense figured out if we’re expecting to play in January.

  152. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2017 Schedule
Sept. 10: vs Carolina: L 3-23
Sept. 17: at Seattle: 9-12
Sept. 21: vs. L.A. Rams: L 39-41
Oct. 1: at Arizona: L 15-18
Oct. 8: at Indianapolis: L 23-26
Oct. 15: at Washington: L 24-26
Oct. 22: vs. Dallas: L 10-40
Oct. 29: at Philadelphia: L 10-33
Nov. 5: vs. Arizona: L 10-20
Nov. 12: vs. N.Y. Giants: W 31-21
Week 11 — Bye
Nov. 26: vs. Seattle, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 3: at Chicago, 10 a.m.
Dec. 10: at Houston, 10 a.m.
Dec. 17: vs. Tennessee, 1:25 p.m.
Dec. 24: vs. Jacksonville, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 31: at L.A. Rams, 1:25 p.m.
 
2017 Draft Class
1. DE Solomon Thomas
1. ILB Reuben Foster
3. CB Ahkello Witherspoon
3. QB C.J. Beathard
4. RB Joe Williams
5. TE George Kittle
5. WR Trent Taylor
6. DT D.J. Jones
6. LB Pita Taumoepenu
7. CB Adrian Colbert
 
2017 Prognostications
Bullit: 5-11
Chuck: 9-7
Grumpy: 4-12
Mr Fletch: 5-11
NJ49er: 6-10
Rob: 9-7
RTFirefly: 5-11
Skeebers: 6-10
Winder: 4-12

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