Face Off in Foxborough

The last time the 49ers played the Patriots was 2008, a 30-21 loss at Candlestick. Matt Cassel was the Patriot QB and Mike Nolan was the 49er Head Coach. Nolan was fired two games later and Cassel is now sucking in Kansas City.

Take two Advils and continue reading.

I try to remember these things when faced with a possible humungous butt kicking in New England this Sunday. Even if that were to occur, the Niners are still a pretty good team and a whole star system removed from those abysmal last days of The Suit.

I also remember that two weeks ago, the Patriots barely squeaked by Miami 23-16. The Texans made these guys look invincible, but that’s more an indictment of the Texans for being fake contenders. I’m surprised a Wade Phillips defense got shellacked that bad, but the Texans’ offense stunk up the place and left the defense to just play out the string. Not a good situation against a coach who loves to run up the score.

The 49ers are not fake contenders like the Texans. Whenever the Texans are in the big spotlight, they shrivel like a morning stiffy in a cold shower. The 49ers do not shrink. Their finest games this year have been on national audience stages.

The key to the game is getting pressure on Tom Brady, but that is tough to do. The Patriots have their own version of long time 49er O-line coach Bobb McKittrick in Dante Scarnecchia, who has been the O-line coach in New England for Brady’s entire career. His offensive lines always do a great job of pass blocking, no matter who is in the lineup.

The Patriots do not have a great pass rush, so Colin Kaepernick should have time enough to throw. Their secondary was a disaster area early in the season, but has been bolstered noticeaably since Bill Belichick eagerly plucked problem child CB Aqib Talib from the Tampa Bay Bucs.

The Patriots think they are going to win the Super Bowl this year. The 49ers thought that way at the beginning of the season, but I’m not so sure they still feel as strongly about their chances. They were thumped emphatically, at home, by the Giants, which had to hurt their psyches. Another thumping at the hands of the Patriots would bring some glum realism into the locker room — and the fan base.

My own private fantasy is that Brady drops back to pass on the first play of the game and gets absolutely drilled by Aldon Smith, breaking Brady’s right arm into twenty pieces and sending him to the locker room while the New England crowd experiences a deathly quiet moment. I know the 49ers do not have a Bounty program, but I’m sure some anonymous donations would be sent to the 49er Christmas stockings from Denver and Houston and Baltimore should such a gruesome, yet delightful, moment occur. I mean, it’s only an arm, right? They heal. More or less.

One thing is certain about this game: the whole world will be watching. A 49er win would restructure the thinking of the entire NFL. A narrow loss would be a John Madden moment, these heavyweights will probably meet again in February deal. A blowout loss and everyone will move along to the great Peyton Manning versus Tom Brady moment in late January.

The 2012 season is coming down to the contenders’ room, for sure. The Texans and Falcons have been asked to vacate the premises. The Giants are there till somebody sends them home. Will the 49ers still have a chair at the bar come Sunday night? We shall see.

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  1. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Here are some tactics and strategies in containing Tom Brady
    http://tinyurl.com/at5ew2y

  2. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    NJ, The Skins just beat the Giants doing just that. ‘That’ was running their version of the read option. So, even the better defense can be beaten with this stuff. The risk is of course not being able to sustain the dink, dunk, small chunk offense long enough to reach the end zone. Sound familiar? The Niners have fallen victim to this very thing for years now. It’s a different offense, but may yield the same result.
    .
    If it gets Kappy more involved with making bigger plays, though, I’m all for it. They almost hit the flea-flicker, and Kappy got his big run out of it, so I don’t think this bug-eye shit is going away.

  3. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Or Fox off in Faceborough . . .

  4. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    The Patriots are avg. 41 pts./gm during their current 7-game winning streak. The only way to contain Tom Brady would be if the Niners hired a goon to go break his kneecaps the night before in his hotel room. I’m available provided the Niners buy me a first-class ticket to fly free to Foxborough to go Gillooly on his ass.
     
    Bullit, you and me this week in our ESPN FF playoffs. They have you as a 10 pt. favorite. As well it should be. You’ve had the most consistent and highest scoring team all year long. I’m still vacillating over whether or not to start Bryce Brown tonight. All my Thursday night players have taken huge dumps this year, so naturally I benched Knowshon last Thursday and he scores 30 fantasy pts. vs the Raiders. I just have a sick feeling that whatever I do the opposite will happen. Where’s George Costanza when ya need ’em?

  5. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Brady is one of the classic QBs, like Kurt Warner, that don’t do very well under pressure. A couple big hits and it usually takes him a while to regroup. Pressure on Brady with 4 or 5 is the key. If he gets time to throw he as deadly as any QB in NFL history and then it would be game over!

  6. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    del- If Daktari is Swahili for doctor is Bakhtiari Botswanan for sack doctor? Send Clarence and Judi after Brady. That would be the lion and chimp from Daktari.

  7. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, my knowledge off all African dialects is a little rusty, but if I had to guess I’d say Bakhtiari translates into English as “flotsam and jetsam off the waiver wire.”

  8. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Tonight the whipping begins, Dennis.
    Half the Coyotes are day-to-day now, so I have to gamble and leave the team alone.
    Good luck, my Old Friend.

  9. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I think it’s looking good for you with RG III. The clips I’ve seen of him in practice this week lead me to believe he’ll play Sunday. And the Vegas line supports RG III playing as well. All the early money is going on the ‘Skins as if he were going to play. But as I’ve seen in many a FF match-up before, it won’t be the star(s) that make or break you. It will be your WR3 or QB3 that get you over the hump.
     
    Best of luck right back at’cha.

  10. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I benched Christian Ponder for my first game against Reno. He responded with his best game of the season.
    So I put him back in and he’s sucked as a FF QB ever since.
    Luckily in the draft I took a chance on Adrian Peterson.

  11. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    You guys should ask me for advice on who to play on your fantasy teams. Whoever I tell you to play, play the other guy!

  12. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    LOL, Reno you’ve always kicked my butt until that last game.
    One thing, RG gave me 50 in one game, I think AD did in another.
    But I don’t know crud about picking defensive guys.
    I’m an offensive guy.

  13. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    And I cut Welker early this season when the Pats were struggling.
    Ryan sent me a mail just laughing.
    I’d have won the league with him.

  14. winderNo Gravatar says:

    It’s football, I hope we stomp Brady into the dirt and at least crack a few ribs.

  15. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s to hoping our offensive line shows up Sunday, to do something other than commit penalties. They’ve been shaky the last two weeks. If Wilfork and company beat them on the LOS, it will be a long day.

  16. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I just read that the formation which goes by the names Bug Eye, Diamond and Full House Pistol is called Q by the 49ers.

  17. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Just checked Accuweather forecast for Sunday night is 38 degrees mixed rain and snow. 70% chance of rain and snow.
    Type of weather for short passes and pounding the ball on the ground.
    Hanging on to the slippery ball just might determine the game.

  18. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    After reading Rob Parker’s comments from First Take, I have to ask myaself if I am a cracker or a cornball cracker since I had a black girl friend and a couple of my really good buddies were black when I was younger.

  19. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I’d say the next two games will give us a good idea of whether Kaepernick gives us a better chance to win this year or not. If we want to win the SB, we have to beat really good teams – at home or on the road.

  20. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    After reading Rob Parker’s comments from First Take, I have to ask myself if he is a G-D-d idiot, or an effing moron. So hard to tell.

  21. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Last thing we needed to hear from today’s Patriots practice: Gronk participated. Oh well, won’t change the outcome. We’ll just lose by 28 instead of 21 now.

  22. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, Berger. What we saying about if a white guy said those things? Well, at least they’re being fair. ESPN has reprimanded the brother. Rob Parker has been suspended.
     
    I didn’t have a problem with what he said. It’s a goddamn shame you can’t say what’s on your mind without fear of reprimand in our great country any longer.
     
    Not I said the cat. I still say what’s ever on my mind and I could give a shit if offends or hurts anyone’s feelings. I hurt your feelings? Boo-effing-hoo.

  23. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Del- If that is how he feels then let him say it. We have the choice to agree or scoff. My only problem is the double standard. Al Campanis and Jimmy the Greek should not have been fired, and neither should this guy. I did not agree with any of them but not allowing others to speak freely and then to debate the controversial topics perpetuates the issues. In the end maybe there is no double standard. Maybe it is all about the money and the only time one of these guys gets fired is when the networks thinks they might be losing money over the incident.

  24. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    You should be able to say anything you want as far as the government is concerned. When you work for someone, and you say something effing stupid as part of your job, your boss has every right to shitcan you for being stupid. He wants to make money, and you are not helping. As long as the state does not interfere is the process, I’m cool with that. You have freedom of speech – that does not equate to freedom of consequences as far as people’s (or companies’) opinion of you and willingness to associate with you.

  25. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy- Good point.

  26. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Another shooting today but this one makes me sick.
    I just don’t get all the idiots in this country.
    This week you can’t go to mall to Christmas shop or be a kid in Kindergarten.
    How do you kill 18 5 and 6 year olds?
    Sorry but this just bugs the crap out of me.

  27. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Corporations should not forbid employees from engaging in the political process.
    That is Fascism.
    Directly trying to verbally sabotage an employer, however, is grounds for immediate termination of that employment.
    It’s a very fine line.
    Rosebud was his sled. TCM at the moment.

  28. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Unspeakable tragedy. Makes your heart cry and your blood boil imagining the terror of the children and the suffering ahead for the survivors and their families. No more Merry in any of their Christmases now.
     
    I’m currently watching some bastid on the news using this misery to push an agenda, already. Wait, it’s not just some bastid, it’s the bastid in chief. Can’t we let the news be about the families for just a little bit without jumping on every political opportunity? That’s one cold-hearted agenda-driven SOB. Doubly sickening.

  29. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t know if the filter stopped me, NoFear, so I will try again without using F.
    I had a great job lined up in the Springs, but it was 6 months after Columbine, and I had to drive by the high school to get to the interview down the street.
    Turned it down after that.
    My brother is just a couple miles from the Aurora Massacre.
    Just got no stomach for it.

  30. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Right, NoFear. I suppose the prez should be handing out weapons to the murdered kids’ parents at the school. What’s your point? Shame on you for dogging the president while this tragedy unfolds. How many shootings do we get to hear about, or survive for that matter, before there is SOME kind of discussion on the availability of guns in this country.

  31. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Not in New Mexico, Chuck. Unless you want to invade Mexico, too.
    I ain’t giving up my gun out here.
    Semi-autos, cable shows that show how to buy it legal, just put the firing pin in.
    Those should go. Even if it means a little bit of government censorship.
    Just make sure the government doesn’t go too far, not at all.

  32. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Then again, NoFear, I’m sure you’re of the mind that the answer is more weapons. The good guys will take care of things. If there was a good guy in the Colo. theatre, he could have taken care of the bad guy. Right?

  33. winderNo Gravatar says:

    When ur a sociopath with no morals or conscience life has little value. The best anyone can hope for is that they get taken off the streets before they can cause damage like today. I don’t think gun laws are really the problem(excluding automatic weapons)because there is really no middle ground.

  34. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Home protection, sure. Whatever. But when someone buy 50,000 rounds of ammo and 5 assault rifles online (the Colo dude for ex), shouldn’t that set some alarm off somewhere? Fricking homeland security is supposed to be tracking this shit.
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    Goddamned Patraeus gets his saucy emails read by the FBI, where are they to prevent mass weapon purchases?

  35. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, I’m sure this f*cknut had assault weapons.

  36. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Scheist, Chuck, in the country boys learn how to make explosives as teens.
    Getting ready for war with China is part of it.
    Jobs would help. Make friends with that nasty Socialist Superpower with the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world. A country we have never been at war with.

  37. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Venezuela.

  38. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, and you’re one of those gun-grabbing idiots that thinks guns load themselves up and go after innocent children on their own. You’ve never heard of knife/machete wielding maniacs or ANFO bombs that take out buildings full of innocents?
     
    And, yes, you’re damn right. None of those wackos go off in places where folks might be shooting back. You can die cringing and crying on the floor if you choose but don’t try to make it so everyone else must do the same.
     
    Your proof is what, Oakland, Chicago, Detroit, New York? Yeah, take the guns from the law-abiding to make them completely defenseless. Try thinking past the stupid talking points of your masters.
     
    What’s an assault weapon, Chuck?

  39. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Which one, NoFear, I could ask my friends and find a couple dozen.
    Myself, maybe only a couple.
    Assault weapons should be in the hands of a well regulated militia.
    And they shouldn’t have to fight in an Asian War and go crazy when they get back.

  40. robNo Gravatar says:

    NOFEAR
    good one , you’re right !

  41. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I personally think that a B-52, combined with the new F-35s, and the A-10, are pretty darn good assault weapons.
    Personally, I have honest friends and we don’t need weapons, but have them just in case.

  42. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, there is a problem with the gun control logic, but it’s something that few can get their heads around. It’s a simple problem of capitalism and human nature. I wish it was different, because I fear for my own kids, 6 and 8, here as much as any other parent. But it’s not.
     
    When a commodity exists and is desired, a market WILL exist, whether it is legal or not. Demand will produce supply. ALWAYS.

    Ask yourself: how well did Prohibition get rid of all the booze? How well did The Great and Eternal War on Drugs get rid of drugs? Because, the last time I checked, you can buy grass, crack, meth or smack IN ANY CITY OR TOWN IN THE UNITED STATES.
     
    Guess what a gun prohibition is going to look like? Let me tell you: it’s going to look like tens of millions of illegal guns being bought from shady guys standing around in front of 7-11s, selling guns out of a trunk along with their other ‘product’. It’s going to be LESS CONTROL of the gun market, not more. It will be the creation of yet another shiny, job-rich federal bureaucracy, just as useless as the others. You will have MORE untraced guns, and just as much violent gun crime.
     
    It’s one of those simple, Utopian ideas that just will never work in the real world. Every attempt at Utopia by legislation, in fact, seems only to take us one step closer to the opposite. Sometimes, the only winning move is not to play.
     
    What sickens me is the media feeding frenzy that will now make this needledick an anti-hero with his picture on every newspaper in the land, ensuring that more needledicks think to themselves that this a way to get some notoriety for their sad, empty lives. Better to bury the fvcker in an unmarked grave, and ban all mention of him.

  43. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Look, NoFear, I’m all for home protection. I don’t give a f*ck what you have in the way of weaponry. Bully for you. But there has to be a distinction drawn between a handgun for home protection, a hunting rifle, and a fully automatic AK-47 or whatever the f*ck is the weapon du jour. See? Is there a difference? Of course not.
    .
    Anyone 18 and fresh out of the asylum, or jail, should have the inalienable right to walk into a Walmart and buy a high powered rifle.
    .
    My point is, it shouldn’t be as easy as buying a soda as it is for a 20 yuear old shit-stain to buy an assault rifle to shoot up his local elementary school.
    .
    As for you, as usual, you paint anyone not caching weapons, land mines, and grenade launchers as some sort of Jerry Brown worshipping left wing whack job. This is why this discussion never happens on any level. Because of overzealous survivalists who think we should all be armed to the teeth all the time everywhere.
    .
    Forget the government. Let’s all go back to living in caves and raiding eath others encampments.

  44. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Grump, no jokes forthcoming. I just want to tell you that was one excellent post. Well said.

  45. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I’ll say it again:
    .
    My point is, it shouldn’t be as easy as buying a soda as it is for a 20 yuear old shit-stain to buy an assault rifle to shoot up his local elementary school.
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    And, NoFear, it’s pretty disgusting of you to use this situation to voice your hatred of the president.

  46. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Or a semi-auto Glock, which this ass-wipe was apparently using.

  47. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, you can have an assault weapon ordered by mail.
    Totally legally.
    I don’t do it. I help old people and horses.
    Don’t be a fool on this issue.

  48. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Look Grump, I ain’t about taking everyone’s weapons away, just a better job of background checks as to who buys them. Can crimimals circumvent this? Sure. But the harder it is for the general population to get guns, and the better at keeping guns out of the hands of convicted felons or mental patients, the long term effects would be less weapons out there.
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    Come on NoFear. You should recognize this. It’s the trickle down theory.

  49. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    No Shit, RTF. Like I said, the FBI intercepts Patreus’ emails to his bimbo. Shouldn’t they be intercepting assault weapon purchases? I thought thais was the whole point of the Office of Homeland Security.
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    Give it 10 years, and this entire country will be filled with metal detectors. Every f*cking public place will have an detector and a man-trap.

  50. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I’m a 100 miles from Trinity, Chuck.
    Pandora’s box was opened by President Truman on August 8th,1945 against the direct advice of General MacAthur.
    The lock was broken by the United States 67 years ago.

  51. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, we cannot stop the flow of drugs and illegal immigrants into this country. Why will guns be any different? Money will always find a way. You said, “My point is, it shouldn’t be as easy as buying a soda as it is for a 20 year old shit-stain to buy an assault rifle to shoot up his local elementary school.” And that is objectively true. But it also should not be as easy as buying a bag of doobie or a rock or some meth. Or getting an illegal day laborer. BUT IT WILL BE. You cannot end this by making it illegal. Not with ten million men on the border. Money will find a way. Demand will always naturally find supply. The cartels have tunnels under the border, submarines, whatever they want. Guns will flow in just as drugs do now. Until demand disappears, supply will always prevail. All else is folly; well-intentioned perhaps, but folly nonetheless.
     
    And as for the whole point of Homeland Security -> No. The whole point of Homeland Security was to cynically use people’s fear to create an new federal bureaucracy. Dedicated to frisking kids, groping your Grandma, and above all else, keeping that DC money gravy train flowing.
     
    I would love to believe in the federal government doing something right and effective that benefits us. I’d like to believe in Santa, too. After 51 years on this Earth, I sadly cannot.

  52. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Whatever. I still stand by the fact that as a nation, we should make it harder to buy a gun than it is to get a f*cking fishing permit.

  53. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Obviously, Grump, OHC was just anotherway to grow the government. Another pit to shovel taxpayers mioney into. Shouldn’t they TRY to do some good?

  54. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Only one objection, Grumpy.
    Doobs (I’m assuming you mean marijuana, but I may be being an a$$ assuming.)
    Rock?
    Meth?
    THEY ARE COMPLETELY different drugs.
    What is this, Marijuana Madness paranoia again?
    BTW, I don’t smoke it.

  55. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    You’d cut crime in New Mexico by half by legalizing marijuana.
    The cocaine trade will have to be somebody else’s job. Talk to Texas.
    Meth you will never get rid of in the country.
    It must be education for our kids.
    for our future.

  56. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    RT – point being, they are all illegal (in most of the US), and the government has been equally hopeless and inept at doing much to curtail supply. They are all different, and I can buy any of the four in any American town of more than a few thousand people. I could, if I wanted, get an illegal day laborer at any Hme Depot in this country. People are starting to see the hopelessness of trying to empty the ocean of supply on spoonful at a time. What I am saying is, guns could be just as lucrative as other illegal activities, and I see no more success in the government stopping it than it has had in these other areas.
     
    Chuck – I’m open to background checks to catch obvious nutcases, but those are going to be rare. If you make the system exclusionary to more than a tiny percentage of the citizenry, however, you create a market pressure that will draw extralegal actors in to fill the vacuum. This, like drugs, is not a social ill you can address in the marketplace by focusing on supply. You have to address demand instead, by educating people about the dangers and responsibilities of firearms.

  57. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Agreed, Grumpy. HLS is a cash cow for Texas.

  58. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Disagree on this, though. There are millions of Hispanics willing to risk their lives to be free.
    I am not going to stop them.

  59. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I think it’s better than doing nothing. But that’s just me.
    .
    I mean, where does it stop? If I’m part of the ‘well-armed militia’ the 2nd amendment talks about, why not a grenade launcher as a theft deterrent? Or land mines under my lawn to deter Mormons, 7th Day Adventists, and other vermin?
    .
    RTF, California could wipe out it’s debt burden in 2 years by legalizing (and taxing) pot. You’d save billions by not funding the pot wars alone, let alone generate a ton of revenue from the taxes.

  60. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Again, I’m talking about the ability of government to control illegal activity when market forces are paramount. There are valid concerns on both sides of the illegal immigration issue. I am not unsympathetic to those who want a better life for their kids. OTOH, as a child of legal Hispanic immigrants, I frown upon those who flouted the system. There are also some very serious national security issues with unsecured borders. The real problem is in Mexico and points south. So long as those nations fail to provide freedom and economic security, and employers here offer job in exchange for cheap labor, people will try to come here. Of course, our dumbass DC politicians will probably solve that issue, by crashing the economic engine which attracts them, until they choose to go to some other, new Land of Opportunity. That will be a solution of a sort, though hardly our desired one.

  61. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I think it’s better than doing nothing. But that’s just me.
    .
    I mean, where does it stop? If I’m part of the ‘well-armed militia’ the 2nd amendment talks about, why not a grenade launcher as a theft deterrent? Or land mines under my lawn to deter Mormons, 7th Day Adventists, and other vermin? Hey, 2nd amendment, baby.
    .
    RTF, California could wipe out it’s debt burden in 2 years by legalizing (and taxing) pot. You’d save billions by not funding the pot wars alone, let alone generate a ton of revenue from the taxes. CA could sell to other legal states like Alaska, Washington, and Colo.

  62. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Ask Bill Clinton and NAFTA and its ugly baby NAFTA-CR what happened.

  63. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    It’s not about keeping the people safe or public safety. It’s about more power grabbed by the government.
     
    You think everyone can go buy an automatic weapon and the second amendment means militia because that’s what the media has put out there for sheep pablum.
     
    “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.” –Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, 1787
     
    You’d better be able to define an assault weapon before you try to ban them.

  64. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Land mines, Chuck? My friends and I have horses, dogs, and cats.
    And a baby, my honarary grandniece.
    I have plenty of land mines to navigate.
    Here’s a prayer for those kids who survived that massacre today.
    Another one for the families of those kids who were killed.
    Just a prayer for the survivors.
    Good night, all.

  65. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Weird. Don’t know how that happened.
    .
    The thing is, with our economy so shitty, illegal immigration has slowed to basically 0 from Mexico, but yeah, the unsecured part worries me as well. What do we do re that? The electric fence (cameras and shit) Bush tried was an unmitigated disaster. Boots on the ground? Vigilantes? NoFear?
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    Thing is, as a father of 3 kids, the impact of shootings like this is pretty overwhelming. That this f*cking shit-stain had to take 20 innocent kids with him is the ultimate tragedy. The wish is that these stupid glory hounds would just start with themselves instead of taking so many with them. Like sports broadcasts not showing the idiots jumping onto the field and running around, you’d hope that the media would forego covering this kind of shit within an inch of its life, out of respect for the grieving. But there’s a snowball’s chance in hell of that happening.

    This clown’s face will be plastered all over the world now. He wins.

  66. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Good one, NoFear. Why don’t you read the 2nd Amendment? Jesus.
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    A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.[8]
    .
    Wasn’t it Bush I who signed the assault weapons ban? Maybe it was Clinton. I don’t remember. Bush II let it die. That much I remember. Is that definition too vague? I don’t really give a f*ck. Doing nothing is a great idea though.

  67. robNo Gravatar says:

    the real shame is this 24 year old asshole had to take it out on a classfull of kids !

  68. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I wish one of you guys could understand German.
    This is a symphony about tragedy and loss. False steps, then final victory to Friedrich Schiller’s poem.
    Freude is Immense Joy in German.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3217H8JppI

  69. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    It was written during the Napoleonic Invasions.
    The poem at the end has to do with War and Peace.
    It is about Joy.
    I wish I were good enough to translate immediately. give me time.
    All men shall be brothers, and underneath the starry skies, with the angels, will we have joy.

  70. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    That’s from a rebel. You can see how easily that music could be perverted into Wagner.

  71. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Wackos getting attention from the media is their 15 minutes of fame. A woman used her car in Reno about 20 years ago to mow down multiple victims walking on a sidewalk. In Oklahoma City some whacko used fertilizer to blow up a building. In Japan some outcast gassed the subway. Citizens with guns could have stopped some of this madness at the theaters, malls and schools.
     
    Not much crime on the dirt road I live on. You know why? All the criminals know us here in this neighborhood all have guns.
     
    We don’t need metal detectors as much as we need mental detectors. But then that would be frowned upon because that would be profiling. That’s why this guy, and many like him are not found out ahead of time.
     
    In my opinion the biggest problem is kids not learning what competition is. Most younger little leagues don’t even keep score anymore. Learning how to lose at a young age teaches many how to cope. This society doesn’t want kids to feel the heartache of losing. So when they feel it later they flip. And then they get their fame from the bubble headed bleach blond at the 24 hour news network.

  72. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy- You are on a roll today my friend!

  73. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Seid umschlungen, Millionen.
    Diesen Kuss der ganzen Welt.

  74. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Was meinen Sie mit education, Reno?
    Does anybody in this country know what e=mc2 means?
    No me comprendo.

  75. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Wind is up. Means I have a boatload of work tomorrow.
    Chuck I swear I’ll be moving to Socal or Lodi in the spring.
    Somewhere where it doesn’t go from 70 to -10 in 72 hours. And back again.

  76. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Berger – I was living and working in Reno when that happened. I was drinking in the Mapes Money Tree casino on the corner of 2nd and Virgina when she did it. I ran out into the street and saw the people lying on both sides of the sidewalk. she had run her car back and forth for a whole block. i also saw a guy come out of Harrah’s club and snatch a purse from one of the victims and run back inside.That is one day I won’t forget. I think there were like 8 dead and a bunch injured and a couple of them were young girls.

  77. winderNo Gravatar says:

    The year was 1980.

  78. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    winder- I feel for you brother. No sane individual could ever forget a scene like that. My point was people kill, not guns.
     
    I guess a liberal would say if he had a knife he would have killed less. Tell that to the victims in the Oklahoma City non gun situation, or the Japan underground train gassing. No guns were used in those mass killings.
     
    I choose to pray for the people of Newtown. This situation just makes me sick.

  79. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Who did I have the bet with during draft day? I took Chapman and the other idiot took Crick. I think I am going to loase this bet for bragging rights. But I still say I was right! Right or wrong!

  80. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, I’m staying up late since the roof nearly came off tonight.
    You can’t get these children’s lives or their futures back.
    Chuck, STFU or do something about it to protect the innocent children.

  81. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’ll take the blunt force of the comments, but IMO the reason society has to endure the mishaps we keep seeing in the news of mass murders is because of the ideals set forth by liberals like unca, Twin Fan and bullit.

  82. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve got news for you guys.
    We’re going to war, so I don’t give a rat’s ass about your opinions.
    I don’t mean the penny ante stuff.
    Look how Venice had an economic stranglehold over Genoa.
    Same stuff, different day.
    My friends out here trying to move up in their jobs, but they can’t.
    Because the Chinese own the store and it puts all the little guys out of business.

  83. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    The Chinese just launched a jet that landed on an old abandoned Russian carrier. 1 jet.
    Then launched a missile over Japan.
    Not like they don’t think revenge or anything.
    And the Spratleys. Geez, don’t you guys see what is coming.

  84. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Rufus, the Chinese don’t want to go to war with us, they couldn’t afford to lose the market or disrupt the flow of our debt service money making them rich.
     
    They will push their territorial rights claim to the Spratleys and surrounds for oil and other resources but if we had some capable pols and a strong voice in the UN it wouldn’t require any hostilities to settle it.
     
    We will back the Phillipines’ claim, or at least we would have, and probably Vietnam’s, too. The Chinese are engaging in show of force sabre rattling mostly.

  85. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    You had to mention my name or I would’ve stayed out of this.

    OKC wasn’t a lone wacko but a group of anti government terrorists so please don’t cloud the picture.
    They were miltia and the fact you call them liberals is hilarious.
    You are stretching the truth here
    my Ann Coulter worshipping friend.

  86. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    How RTF? Buy a gun to protect my kids? Arm them? They are out of the house. I have to trust the outside world. As any parent does. Glory seeking idiots like this waste of life cannot be stopped in a free society, but slowing access to high powered weaponry could slow shit down. Or maybe not. I guess we just let it roll, baby.
    .
    And if you think we’re going to war with China, you better start smoking the green. They’ll sabre-rattle now and then but it won’t go anywhere. Economic war is fine with them.
    .
    As a parent I raised my kids to be smart, caring, and thoughtful. Blaming these fucked up d-bags because of how they win or lose t-ball games? Really? You guys obviously haven’t raised kids. If this had anything to do with feelings of inadequacy, or whatever this clown’s reasons end up being, there’d be 10 mass shootings every day.
    .
    Bergs, you don’t have a gun. Why bring that up? And blaming this kind of shit on me is the height of absurdity. Hope that keeps you warm at might.
    .
    I mean really, This country is so politically correct over the stupidest issues. But something as crazy as shit like this never gets to the table in any way shape or form. Like I said, let it roll, baby.
    /
    Did you serve, Bergs? Twin did. I’d get of the high horse.

  87. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Bellachick has listed 18 of his players as “questionable” on his injury report.
    Nobody skirts the rules like Billy
    followed closely by whats your deal Petey.

  88. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    The Chinese don’t want to go to war with us…. yet.
     
    They are patient, and in 15 years their military spending will likely exceed ours, as will their GNP.
     
    In any case, Sun Tzu said it’s better to win without fighting. If China is able to bully concessions out of the Philippines, they win, even if a shot is never fired. Then in 5 or 15 years, demand more concessions.

  89. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- I did cloud the subject by mixing two separate, but related subjects. The point of the OKC bombing is it was not guns being used to kill. But those two behind that scene were not liberals, you are correct about that. They were still whackos. I was covering two separate points and ran them together. Point one, guns don’t kill, people do. Point two, liberal society doesn’t allow their children to lose these days.

  90. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Enough from me on societal woes, how about the Boston TD party tomorrow!

  91. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- One more thing about your previous comment. Did you mention Ann Coulter! If I wasn’t married I’d do her in a heart beat! The old love ’em and leave ’em!

  92. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Unfortunately weather will not be a factor in the Seahag vs Bills game as they are playing in Rogers Center in Toronto with a retractable dome.
    A Bills victory would be a nice early Christmas present.

  93. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like Manningham is out.
    Mario seems to be a fragile receiver who just can’t avoid injuries. Kinda like McFdden of the Raiduhs. Can’t rely on him week to week.
    Frank needs to be the bellcow tomorrow.

  94. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    DId you delete me Skeebs?

  95. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    No. Let me check the spam queue.

  96. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    It was there, Chuck. You typed a bad word. I restored it anyway.

  97. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    RTF, how bout you shut it? DOing something involves some sort of assautl weapons ban. I’ve done all I can to raise my kids to be smart, resposnble, and accountable. So far so good.You?
    .
    How else can I effect change? Arm myself for a trip to the mall? Arm my kids as they make their way through college? As they grow up you have to put trust in the outside world that they won’t be murdered in a theatre or killed in the myrial number of ways that kids die. I stress always being aware of where you are and who you are with. Especially since my 2 oldest are girls.
    .
    China prefers fighting their war economically. And they have pleeeeenty of time on their side.
    .
    And blaming this kind of shit on t-ball rules is beyond ludicrous, Bergs. How many kids have you raised? Did you serve in the armed forces? DId you fight in a war? I know Twin did, so I’d watch that smart-ass talk, skippy. Christ. You don’t even own a gun. You decry ‘liberals’ as the cause for society’s ills, Bergs, but you hide in your house and point fingers at those who do more than your whining.

  98. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    No, Chuck, I just pay my taxes, obey all laws, and help out people in need. Try to set an example to keep neighborhoods crime free.
    All I can do.

  99. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    unca- I would not blame you for what happened. I did put some fault on ideals like yours, IOW liberal ideals. I trust you are a good father. I do have guns. What I said months ago is I don’t carry a gun. Many of my friends do.

  100. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t carry a gun. Mine is for home defense. My friends don’t carry or own guns.
    We control crime around here by being nice and giving to the poor.
    Guns in New Mexico? This is Apache country and Jesse James country.
    There is always someone braver than you.

  101. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Berger is going to give a game plan to beat the Pats. I know, score more points. The question then becomes how do we score more points.

    Rush and pressure Brady with 5 or less. Run wide of the tackles and make their slow LBs and DL run a lot. Running between the tackles will not work very often. Try the read option and see if it is working. If it is, run it often. Eat clock and limit Brady’s touches. And yes, score more points!

  102. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve never been robbed, burglarized, or assaulted in New Mexico.
    In New Mexico???
    Funny how kindness, charity and education work.

  103. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    And a big stick!

  104. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    General Powell/Gary Johnson was my ticket.
    Since they wouldn’t let me vote for Teddy.

  105. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    RT- How’s your weather? We have a dusting of snow on the ground and it is in the 30’s.

  106. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Roof almost blew off last night. Friends’ roofs (rooves?) partially blew off last spring.
    I had repair work to do this morning.
    Two more storms on the way.
    Then before you know it, it’ll be 93 for 3 straight months.
    Welcome to New Mexico.

  107. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Nice thing is it is getting lighter in the afternoon now. One extra minute of daylight since last week is hardly heating anything up yet, especially since it is still getting darker in the morning. It doesn’t start getting lighter in the morning until about a week into January.
     
    I see New Mexico is hosting Nevada and Arizona in a bowl game.

  108. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The Forgetabowl . . .

  109. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    In ABQ. They’re pretending to try to turn their football program around. While my nephew was working his butt off to complete his degree, the HC was leading the team to a (well I don’t remember precisely) 1-9 year.
    There’s too much to do here. Hiking, camping, fishing, watching the newest USAF jets fly overhead.
    Festivals. Nobody here gets fired up about football.
    Coach made $500K. That was a bit of a problem for the University.

  110. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Did I mention the stars? I wish I hadn’t given up part of my eyesight to computers.
    Dam. Just go out at night, especially in the snow, and tell me again how there is no God.
    Those children are living the stars now.

  111. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    The bastard was a paid assasin.
    Whoever paid him is trying to counterattack, probing us for weaknesses.
    And I thought I freakin retired. And Navy Intel turned me down, and the Marines just laughed.
    Too old, too crippled they said.
    Who is laughing now?
    Texas freakin oilmen, including a couple politicians I won’t name.

  112. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I dunno. We have Looney Tunes here east of the Rockies.
    Columbine, Aurora, not exactly my choices to live. Nutcases you learn to live with.
    But CT? Someone was making a statement, and it wasn’t me and that is a statement I would never consider.
    I don’t even know the question, let alone the answer.
    Excuse me Skeebs, this really really really pisses me off.

  113. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I believe in the 4th Amendment. J Edgar’s guys came around a few times a year rummaging through the garbage and all. Part of my Dad’s job.
    But this is ridiculous.

  114. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Are we going to stay a free society, or go Fascist?
    Here is my answer and I’ll fight to death for it.
    http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AllTPOdPbJMNeTakv3hvTKGbvZx4?p=america+the+beauti&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-521

  115. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    The Bon Jovi version is quite good, but Ray Charles puts them all away.

  116. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve visited darn near every place in Ray’s video.
    Not the carrier, or the Canaveral launch site.
    But every other place, from the lighthouses to the mountains to the plains.
    We’ll get through this. It won’t be easy, but we will get through.
    That is my last post on the massacre, Skeebs, unless someone baits me.
    From now on it’s back to football for me.

  117. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    My nephew had to work and claw his way to his University degree.
    We couldn’t afford grad school for him, so he is going anyway.
    And the coach walks off with $500K.
    I can start with that, Chuck.
    Education.

  118. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I wish I would have been at the sports book today. I was telling anybody who would listen to bet the over on Nevada vs Arizona. I didn’t even know what the line was, just that I knew it was going over. The final was 49-48, I’m assuming that was over?

  119. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The over was 104.5

  120. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Great day for football. Giants/Falcons, Ravens/Broncos, Indy/Houston, Packers/Bears, and of course 49ers/Patriots. Get your popcorn ready!

  121. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    For you pain addicts, there’s Raiders/Chiefs!

  122. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    unca- That’s funny! I looked it up at two sites, the over under was 75 at one place and 75.5 at the other.

  123. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    For us true pain addicts, there’s; Gabapentin, Indomethacin, Baclofen, Vicodin, alcohol and NOT watching the Raiders/Chiefs!

  124. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Good thing the Ravens fired Cam Cameron. It was all his fault. Baltimore is 1 for 11 on 3rd down and have 3 pts. thru 3 quarters.

  125. robNo Gravatar says:

    IMHO

    we have a good shot at beating the patriots tonight !

    if we can get to brady we can beat them . we’ll also get to see if their defense is any good !

  126. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    NE’s due a letdown, and who better than a team outide their conference?

  127. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    OK, after much deliberation on whether it’ll be a high or low scoring game. Confirming with my good I-talian friend from Florida, I’m calling for a “medium” scoring game. We get the early lead and take it into the 4th quarter only to see the future President of the United States break our hearts. Mr. President Tom Brady 24, 49ers 20. Hail to the Chief.

  128. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Or in this case, hail to the Patriot. Bum-bum-bum-da-dum-ba-dum-dum-da-dum-da-bum.

  129. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    My 4:54 was right. For the 1st half, anyway.

  130. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Can we continue to rely on Ginn and Delanie in a big spot?
    Geeeeeez.
    Heart failure.

  131. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    KW and Hunter are missed.

  132. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    What a game.
    We needed that.
    We’re still missing that Overdrive Gear though.

  133. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Frank Gore is now the all time leading 49er rushing leader!

  134. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Goldson needs to be re-signed.

  135. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The TD catch by Crabtree between the two defenders was fearless!

  136. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve seen Kaep play in a lot of bad weather games. As you guys saw today, bad weather does’t phase him much. The fumbled snaps were one thing that surprised me, those were Kaeps fault. It seems he did not have his hands together.

  137. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    RJF looked pretty good at DE!

  138. robNo Gravatar says:

    we win !

  139. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I think we can say that Kaep isn’t phased by the big stage.
    Kid is fearless.

  140. robNo Gravatar says:

    is justin smith ok ?

    where was sopoaga in the 2nd half ? is he ok ?

  141. robNo Gravatar says:

    lamichael might not only be a good 3rd down back and a help with hunter out , but he might be our best return man too !

  142. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

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2017 Schedule
Sept. 10: vs Carolina: L 3-23
Sept. 17: at Seattle: 9-12
Sept. 21: vs. L.A. Rams: L 39-41
Oct. 1: at Arizona: L 15-18
Oct. 8: at Indianapolis: L 23-26
Oct. 15: at Washington: L 24-26
Oct. 22: vs. Dallas: L 10-40
Oct. 29: at Philadelphia: L 10-33
Nov. 5: vs. Arizona: L 10-20
Nov. 12: vs. N.Y. Giants: W 31-21
Week 11 — Bye
Nov. 26: vs. Seattle, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 3: at Chicago, 10 a.m.
Dec. 10: at Houston, 10 a.m.
Dec. 17: vs. Tennessee, 1:25 p.m.
Dec. 24: vs. Jacksonville, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 31: at L.A. Rams, 1:25 p.m.
 
2017 Draft Class
1. DE Solomon Thomas
1. ILB Reuben Foster
3. CB Ahkello Witherspoon
3. QB C.J. Beathard
4. RB Joe Williams
5. TE George Kittle
5. WR Trent Taylor
6. DT D.J. Jones
6. LB Pita Taumoepenu
7. CB Adrian Colbert
 
2017 Prognostications
Bullit: 5-11
Chuck: 9-7
Grumpy: 4-12
Mr Fletch: 5-11
NJ49er: 6-10
Rob: 9-7
RTFirefly: 5-11
Skeebers: 6-10
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