Semester Break

The 49ers zoomed into sole possesion of first place in the NFC West Sunday by lounging pool side while watching Arizona get stuffed by Minnesota. Next Monday night, the team will get to stuff Arizona themselves.

Meanwhile, Seattle CB Richard Sherman spent Friday LOLing on his Twitter page at Jim Harbaugh’s complaints that the Seahawks were grievously sinning against the five yard chuck rule throughout last Thursday’s game. While Sherman was Twit-hahahaing, however, the Seattle fan base was not amused. For the third time in three games, the Harbaugh Niners had again beaten the Pete Carroll Seahawks. HAHAHA! LOL!

The Niners will be mostly lounging for the next three weeks while the rest of the league takes shape. The AZ game is the only one on the schedule before the team returns to action for the final eight games. While we may laugh at Seattle for the moment, they have a real shot at running the table at home this year, which would virtually guarantee them an entry to the playoffs. In fact, the December 23rd game at home against the Niners might very well be for the division title.

If the 49ers take down AZ next Monday night, it would be four losses in a row for the Cardinals and it’s difficult to see them contending from that point on. The Rams have been spunky, but they are not going to be a factor this year.

The rest of the league has yet to define itself. Perennial powers have struggled (Packers, Patriots, Steelers, Saints) and only the Texans and Falcons are cruising along well in front of their nearest challengers. The Bears get a lot of love from hypemeisters, but they looked pretty sorry in their loss to the division rival Packers. And they have Jay Cutler, who implodes more abundantly than reigning choker champion Tony Romo.

Last year’s RGIII, Cam Newton, has plutonium fizzled his way to a 1-5 record this year. Seven teams are 3-3, six are 3-4, and only the Panthers, Chiefs, Browns, and Jaguars have slopped themselves into oblivion before the halfway mark of the season.

Harbaugh has a pretty good track record when he has more than a week to prepare for an opponent (okay, he’s been perfect), so it’s likely the team will beat AZ and two weeks later, the Rams. That would put the team at 7-2 and within 3 victories of the ten win plateau that almost always gets you into the playoffs. After a home game against Chicago, four of the final six games are on the road against good competition, though, so the team will definitely be tested and those three wins will not come easy.

Not all of Ninerland will be lounging during these idle days, however. The Alex Smith Witches Coven has announced they will be holding nightly voodoo grumblings throughout the season. Anybody who has an itch to bitch is invited to attend. Bring your dog hair, teensy pin dolls, shredded albino knuckles, lizard tails, used condoms, and any other wacky useless shit laying around your house to toss into the cauldron of boiling hate. Tonight’s rambling gobble fest will address the issue of “Winning Is Overrated.”

At least the Coven provides us fans with The Formula: all losses are Alex Smith’s fault and all wins are team victories that overcome Alex’s faults! In clarity, we proceedeth onward.

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  1. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs- I love the Coven. A 49er blog is not the same without them. I go to bed early and when I wake up there is usually great entertainment and QB coaching clinics to feast on!

  2. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    The broomstick flies just fine. When Alex puts that Ring on his finger, it goes in the bonfire.

  3. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    RG3 is an exciting player much like Newton last year, Bradford the year before and Sanchez in 2009.
    Some rookie QBs excel until opponents have enough tape of them executing their new offense
    and they gameplan against them
    and they struggle.
    Shanahan is no genius this year.
    They are 3-4 with RG3 the same record they had last year with Grossman/Beck.

  4. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    RG III is more than exciting. He has all the tools. Comparing him to Cam Newton, and Rex Grossman???
    Get real.

  5. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    RT

    You ridicule me for getting info from ESPN but a few days later you post info from them? How do things work in your world?
    It seems your hypocrisy has it’s limits.
    As far as Bill Walsh and the WCO
    I’ll help you out here.

    http://tinyurl.com/8c3cp3m

  6. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    It’s “its”, Bullit. It’s a possessive pronoun.
    The vids are great, thanks! I never ridicule you for having an opinion. Repeating propoganda, that’s another thing.

  7. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Here is the great thing about the coven. In KC they cheer Cassel going down to injury, but when Brady went down in NE he was 11-5. The following year Brady went 10-6. Did Cassel prove he could win or did they prove Brady plays in a great system for a QB to thrive in? I think both. That isn’t to take anything away from Brady, he is a great QB, but Cassel won in NE too, and that was his 1st year starting, shouldn’t he be a better QB now? In KC they want to boil his head in a witches brew. Alex Smith is 19-5 in his last 24 regular season games. He even did what the coven said he could not do, win a play-off game in a shoot out with Drew Brees. Winning is not enough for the coven/posse. The coven needs stats.

  8. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Panthers just fired their GM Marty Hurney.

  9. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    RT

    At least I don’t post that Von Miller plays for the Cards and BJ Raji anchors the Dline for the Gnats. That’s on you.
    So you’re so mesmerized with RG3 that you completely forgotten all of Cam Newton’s rookie records?
    Call me when he breaks those records
    Still it’s not about individual stats but where your team is in the standings. The Redskins are in the same place they were last year with Grossman as their QB. That’s a fact.

  10. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    How’s life on the fence, Bergs? Oh that’s right. Since you are off the fence, we are all stupid for not going all-in.
    .
    Anyhow, what IS funny is that any criticism of Smith is met with such ferocity and the assigning of labels. The one sure thing anyone can say about Alex is he’s maddeningly inconsistent. The best game of his career is followed by his worst. Yeah, the Giants had something to do with that, but he was terrible in that game. And he followed that with a not-so-stellar game vs Seattle. Yeah, it was a win. But he didn’t help with the pick in the end zone and other missed shit.
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    I think most of us realize that Smith IS in a better system now. He IS winning games that seemed to slip away from him and the team in earlier regimes. But that doesn’t mean abject worship at the altar of Young Sir Alex. He misses shit, he’s going to catch flak. he throws into triple coverage or tosses 3 picks in a game, should we blame the wideouts?
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    Yeah, the Saints game was great. However, it’s over. If this team fails in it’s quest, what then? Trot out last year’s victories? Or the GB game?

  11. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Say what you will, Bullit, but I think the fans of the Skins think they are in better shape with III, not Gross Rexman. How you win or lose is part of the deal.

  12. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If Carolina had a better defense, do you think Newton would have a better record, Bullit?
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    I guess stats only matter untikl they don’t.
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    And yes, It’s Its are really giood.

  13. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    How;s this for a stat? Smith has as many picks in 7 games as he did all last year?
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    To what do the Knights of Sir Alex’s round table attribute that to?
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    I know the answer, but I want to see what the knights errants come up with . . .

  14. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    You wouldn’t dare talk like this on your blog, Chuck. Twinfan would flay you alive.

  15. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bullshit. Alex is regressing. This is a big game for him coming up.

  16. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Twibn can say what he wants. Like I give a shit.

  17. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    So how do you figure that it’s the Panther defense when they’re ranked 20th and the offense 28th?
    Before you open your mouth again Newton has thrown only 5 TDs in 6 games. That’s a main reason they’re 1-5 and the worst team in football.

  18. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Just like the Jest fans were excited about Sanchez, the Rams fans about Bradford and now the Panther fans this year.
    Hell you can go back to when Romo
    first started for the Cowgurls.
    10 years later lots of fantasy stats and only one playoff win.

  19. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, you slide on and off the Alex bandwagon so often you’ve got skid marks on your butt.

  20. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Let’s see the Niners just climbed back into sole possession of first place and all some people can do is whine and cry that Alex Smith and that the team is slipping into darkness. Typical.

  21. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Can’t win the argument, change the argument. Can’t win changing the argument, stomp your feet and name call. The Alex acolytes do themselves proud.
     
    “Nevermind Alex’s stats, it’s the coaches and the rest of the team.”
     
    “Alex has great stats, it’s the coaches and the rest of the team that keeps us from winning.”
     
    “Nevermind Alex’s stats, we’re winning games.”
     
    “Stats are for losers.” Except for those stats that may look good for Alex.
     
    Every one of the reasons given throughout Alex’s pro career for his failures have been addressed. He’s in the same system with an OC that calls plays easy on the QB. He has a HC who was an NFL QB himself and apparently Alex’s sometimes best friend. He’s behind one of the best O-lines in the game. He has first round talent trying to catch his passes. The only thing that remains constant through it all is Alex and the passing game still sucks.
     
    It must have something to do with witches now. It never gets old.

  22. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, I don’t have to know more about engineering an automobile than Detroit to know if I’m driving a lemon.
     
    I’m no race car driver but I can instantly spot the difference between a cruising Lamborghini and an AMC Pacer trying to go fast.

  23. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    unca- You did not suddenly become stupid, you’ve always been stupid.
     
    The only reason I am talking about Alex is that is what the coven/posse was talking about last night. Are you hungover from a week-end bender? Pay attention.

  24. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I just said it over there. Thanks for caring, Skeebs.
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    Truth is, I’d be surprised to see AZ NOT load the box. I think they will try to stop our run and take away the underneath routes to see what Smith can do deeper. Minn did the same thing with the shorter routes, and the Niners didn’t run that game, and Smith had an off day. The Giants game? More of the same. harbaugh gets more than his share for going away from the run those games.

  25. winderNo Gravatar says:

    All i know is I am glad we are winning. For five years Alex scarred my brain at times to the point of insanity. I am now behind him 100% and have been since Harbaugh got on board. Alex has had some amazing games (Saints, Buffalo, etc)and he has had some stinkers. Nofear makes a good point about our OL, and Receivers. We have 1st round talent throughout our team. I still see Alex making some real bad decisions especially when he gets a little frustrated. To me it seems like a confidence issue and I don’t think you can teach that. You can’t blame Alex for the Viking and Giants loss, we were thoroghly outcoached and out played, but in those game we definitely saw the Alex of old.

  26. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I’d be more impressed if you posted it when Twin was actually on your site, Chuck.
     
    It is cute, though. Skippy and the Donkey – together at last. Cue the romantic sunset.

  27. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- Yes, anybody knows the differnce between a Lamborghini and a Pacer. Not everybody knows how to make lemon aide out of lemons. Harbaugh has us 18-5 with an NFC championship appearance. Your lemon has been his lemon aide!

  28. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    No, Bergs, I didn’t read last night’s shit. Besides, yer the sloppy drinker around these parts.
    .
    Stats are for losers, Bullit. Since you love stats, Bullit, why are the Niners are 24th in passing?
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    My concern is, the teams the Niners have played with good defenses have pretty much schooled us. At least Minn and the Giants did. Seattle did a pretty good job of stopping out passing game as well. Scary yet, statman, the Giants defense is ranked 24th in yards per game. And they f***ed us sideways. What does it mean?!?! Waaah!
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    We are where we were at the start of the year. Hoping Smith can keep it together enough to not throw games away. Smith IS being asked to do more this year, and the results are mixed.
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    See? It ain’t about bandwagons, fences, or labels. It’s about reality. Sorry some of you have to get yer panties in a wad about it all. Smith needs to prove yet again that he can pass his way to victories when the situation presents itself. Against Seattle he did direct a couple nice drives. However, one resulted in a pick in the end zone. The other resulted in a TD.
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    All this means is that the Niners are ready when they reach the playoffs. If they can’t play well from behind, they won’t get very far.

  29. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I never said Alex is a great QB, I just said he is a good QB. No reason to change unless we want to take a chance on getting a bad QB. Tom Brady needed only to kneel down and kick a FG to beat the Seahawks. Instead he threw an interception at the goal line and lost the game. Even the great ones make mistakes. But here the coven/posse wants Alex to be perfect. BTW, I saw Brady overthrow a lot of receivers Sunday. Only Alex has to hit them all.

  30. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, Winder, you are a hater and a bandwagon jumper. How dare you criticise anything that Young Sir Alex and the round table does.
    .
    Don’t strain yourself, Skeebs. I don;t know Twin’s schedule. Gawd. What a fool you are.

  31. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    No, Bergs, no one is perfect, and no one is talking QB roulette. The first pick in the Giants game was a deep shot. I’m OK with that. The other 4 were Smith throwing into crowds. They were bad throws. And if you want to stick with your Brady/Smith comparison, go for it. I’d hate to have to use stats around that. 12 TDs and 3 picks for Tom, to 9 and 5 for Smith. 2000 yards to 1400.

  32. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Back on the fence I see, Bergs.

  33. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I also said Alex stunk it up vs the Giants. But so did the rest of the team. I guess you missed that game. Were you drunk again?

  34. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I see Pete Carroll is bragging about how well his secondary blanketed the Niner WRs last week. It was pretty obvious from the overhead shots during the game, too. Apparently the Coven and their new recruit missed this fact.

  35. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Nope, not on the fence. Alex is a QB who we can win with. I am happy to have him as our QB. Until something better comes along I would rather not mess with 19-5 in his last 24 games. You on the other hand are on board after a good game and gone with the wind after a bad game. Twinnie getting you mad? Is that why you are jumping?

  36. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    BTW, Chuck, I wouldn’t expect you to know Twin’s schedule. You’re stupid. I don’t go to the baseball blogs, but I know that’s where he is (and you too). He posts for a day or two after Niner games, so he’s not around now. Anything else you want to know about your blog?

  37. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The coven/posse thinks they were all open on every play.

  38. winderNo Gravatar says:

    chuck – this is kinda fun. I truly don’t care what other people think about me on the blogs. All of us being 49er fans the end goal is the same.
    .
    It is funny though how an opinion can turn into downright treachery, or the Benedict Arnold syndrome.
    .
    Skeebs – Pete Carroll is a true A$$ and he will always show his colors. I hope Harbaugh never loses to that creep.

  39. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    “Stats are for losers.”
     
    Cherry-picking a select few is for whom then?
    “I would rather not mess with 19-5 in his last 24 games.”
     
    “All the receivers were blanketed” is why Alex threw 10 yards over the heads of the few that beat their coverage for big plays but for the wild throws.
     
    Even if the passing game is lacking the grasping at straws has reached a new level anyway.

  40. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Winder, I think we can all agree on that.

  41. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    NF, you must be referring to the two times (the few?) Alex overthrew Kyle Williams, who was not particularly open on either play. But why let the facts get in the way of your stretchhhhhhing exercises.

  42. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    How does it feel to have the donkey sharing a bed with you, NF? Kinda creepy, right?

  43. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers, he missed “a few” other throws as well. Only in Alex’s world do the receivers have to have two steps on the defender to be “open”.
     
    The truth will dawn on the rest of you sooner or later. I still have hope for you, my friend.

  44. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, you were laughed off that blog in about 3 days, Bergs. Clever ploy to bring up your lack of knowledge as a defense.
    .
    Did you miss the play with Moss in the end zone with no one w/in 10 yards of him? I know Alex did. Because he threw a pick on that play. Hyuk.
    .
    Until something better comes along.’? Right, Bergs. Yer calling Alex a placeholder. I’m surprised the knights at the round table approve. That’s the definition of fence sitting, skippy. Surprised you can maintain your balance.
    .
    This is like a grade school girls clique.

  45. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    You blame the Panthers troubles on their defense. Prove it then.
    Cam Newton has nothing to do with them being 1-5?
    You stepped into that one as usual like the bull in a china shop.
    You asked why the Niners aren’t ranked higher in passing? Might have something to do with them being 30th in pass attempts.
    Crap you stepped into another one.

    Signed Skippy

  46. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    winder- Nice post!

  47. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck FYI

    On the firing of their GM this was taken from the article on Pro Football Talk and defense is not mentioned anywhere in the entire story
    “In the short term, the surprise might be greater that coach Ron Rivera and offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski still have jobs, since the offensive progress that was so evident a year ago has disappeared, and the Panthers appear more rudderless than at any time since the 1-15 swan song of George Seifert.”

  48. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    unca- What blog did I get laughed off of? This is gonna be good.

  49. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, I don’t give a flying fig about the Panthers. They gave up a ton of games last year due to their shitty defense. Now? I don’t know, nor do I care. I just like to see you go into a froth over anything and everything.
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    Good boy. Fetch the latest stats from ESPN! Sit! Stay! Roll over!
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    Skeebs. Really? Your 12:56 post is indicative of a juvenile mind. Youve already proven that on my site. You and reddog . . .
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    Hyuk.

  50. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Berg, unca thought I was you. It’s a reading comprehension thing for him.

  51. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “.. indicative of a juvenile mind”
     
    Hahaha. Wow. From Chuck, no less.

  52. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Excuse me. Not hahaha. Hyuk hyuk hyuk.

  53. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Wow. Good one, Skeebs. Would you prefer wussy?

  54. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    Reading comprehension is your issue. I clearly stated Pro Football Talk. It seems you and RT have this obsession with ESPN.
    So next Monday the game is on ESPN.
    I know you are a man of principle and will boycott watching the game.
    Chuck it is a hoot to see you try to squirm you way out when boxed in. Extremely lame but funny as hell.

  55. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    You want me to choose what juvenile expression you should hurl at me, Chuck? Surely you jest.

  56. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Oops. *Surely you hyuk*

  57. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I just don’t get the overarching need for Skeebs and others here to force their opinions down everyone’s throat. Is Smith great? No. Is he doing the job? In fits and starts, yeah. Is there trouble on the horizon? Possibly. Has he looked bad in some of these games? Sure.
    .
    Does it mean he’s going to be replaced in 3 weeks? No. Very unlikely. But . . . the front office gave him a one year deal. Why? Because they are hedging their bet with him. Just like Bergs. Nothing wrong with that. It’s just the reality of the situation. If the front office was fully behind Alex as their unquestioned leader, they would have given him a deal commensurate with the elite QBs in the league. Or at least somewhere in the top 15. Instead, they gave him a low-end QB deal. The QBs making similar money (~$8-$9.5 mill/year depending on incentives) are Matt Shaub, Matt Cassell, and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Not exactly the elite list of guys. He’s the 19th highest paid QB in the league. Is thah an indication of how they feel about him? I think so.
    .
    And, before your panties explode, Bullit, Smith’s deal is only guaranteed for THIS year. All the rest of the contract is off the table if Smith isn’t on the 49ers roster on 4/1/13.
    .
    More reality. I think Harbaugh would have no problem going forward with Cappy next year if Smith doesn’t pan out. Granted, I hate the reviolving QB thing now, but Harbaugh is putting him in for a reason. Teams seem to have caught on, so I think he shies away from that going forward.

  58. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, what in God’s name are you talking about? Jesus Christ, I’m not referring to anything specific. Just the point that you post endless links to crap from all over the internet. Get it? You can’t even take a joke correctly.
    .
    You guys ever go out into the real world? Right, I’m not going to watch the game because you post so much tripe from ESPN. Good one. You and Skeebs should start a comedy team. Dumber and Dumberer.

  59. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Do I have anything to say? No. Am I going to say it anyway? Yes. Or maybe not. It depends. Would having an opinion seem like forcing things down other people’s throats? Possibly. Why? That’s a good question. I don’t have an answer. Is this a good thing? Very unlikely. Still, it might be. Have I said enough nothing to seem like it was something? I think so. Possibly.

  60. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    Some of the so called “crap” that I have tried to share with everyone here has ended up on your blog with not as much as a thank you.
    I have the satisfaction of knowing that. hyuk hyuk hyuk
    How many times have I heard the lamest of excuses from you when boxed in saying either you were joking or it was sarcasm.
    Right.

  61. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs, as usual, when you are presented with facts, you turtle up into your feeble attack mode. Weak sauce, skippy.
    .
    The facts are what they is. The team is as ready to drop Alex as a lot of bloggers are if things go that route. What then?
    .
    Oh, sorry, Bullit. I didn’t know you had the divine right to control links from other sources.
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    Har de fricking har. This is getting funnier by the minute.
    .
    Dance little sisters, dance.

  62. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    Didn’t you once say that this was a blog and not the Encyclopedia Britanica and facts weren’t important?
    Just pointing out your hypocrisy as usual. Glad you admitted to using my links 5 mins after I posted it here. No I don’t own it but you slammed me for sharing and then you steal it for your blog? Is that how it works in the Land of Chuck?

  63. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “The facts are what they is. The team is as ready to drop Alex as a lot of bloggers are if things go that route. What then?”
     
    The team will drop anyone who doesn’t play good enough to keep their job. This is not earth shaking insight. It’s what they call “duh”.

  64. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    And the fact is Smith is the #8 rated QB in the league and his team is 5-2 and in first place. Doesn’t sound like a man on the hot seat to me.

  65. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Just Another Effing Day in Paradise here.
     
    “You ARE what your record says you are” – Bill Parcels. For us that would be 5-2. Not 0-7 or 2-5. Also not 7-0.
     
    Is Alex a good QB? Yes, if you accept good enough to be 5-2 as a benchmark. He’s played some outstanding football this year, and, also, some pretty wretched moments as well, mostly against the Giants, but a few vs. Seattle and the Jets. Note that we still WON the Jets game. We also still lost the Vikings game, and that was mostly due to the defense taking the Sunday off. Still.
     
    This is a winning team, with Alex. Also a playoff team. Even a win a playoff game team. That’s pretty darn good. But a Win the Super Bowl Good team? Well, there’s the rub. And most of the doubts there are not about Frank Gore and the O-line, or our defense, or Andy Lee, or even the suddenly shaky David Akers.
     
    Alex Smith has had a fascinating and, at times, painful to watch, career. He has been more productive in the past two years than I ever thought he could be. He also has made far fewer mistakes than once seemed possible. But this is the NFL: Not Fair as well as Not For Long. Like it or not, the gold standard is winning a Super Bowl sometime in your career. I continue to be impressed with the progress he’s made, and hopeful about the future. But the only thing that is going to satisfy some of the doubters is if he goes Steve Young 1994 and shoves the Lombardi Trophy up someone’s butt.
     
    As for the immediate future, I expect some bounce back on his part in the next couple of weeks. Not 300-yard games, but better football than the last two games. He will still struggle when we play good defenses, at least at times. And the Great Alex Debate will not cool down anytime before the coming year. Unless the effing Mayans were right.

  66. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Oh – on the Kyle Williams throws. Those were overthrown, and appeared to be misses – Kyle looked open enough for NFL work. Question I just thought of, though: Has anyone looked at the All-22 to see how clean his release was? Deep passing is largely about timing. If Kyle got open after getting mugged and kicked in the nuts by Sherman or Browner, he may have been open – but not at the point on the field that he should have been, when the QB releases. If the DBs are holding and not getting called, it’s going to be pretty hard to get that timing right. Now maybe that did not happen, and Alex just missed – I don’t have the All-22, so I’m not sure. But it would interesting to see.

  67. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    When you blow as much smoke up Alex’s ass as you do, it certainly is a big deal, Skeebs. Answer this question. . .
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    Why did the front office only guarantee one year? Why is Alex the 19th highest paid QB in the league? OK, 2 questions. Because he’s great? Elite? No. Because they are waiting. As we all are. Will he rediscover the magic and lead us to the Super Bowl? Sure, it could happen. But we are far from that point. Playoffs aren’t a sure thing at this point.

    Whatever. We all see what happens out there. Interpretation is up for debate. I’m taking Berg’s spot on the fence. If that’s being a hater, then boo hoo. I’m so hurt.

    I never slammed you for that, Bullit. That was RTF or 12th. Stop being such a pussy. Good God.

  68. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah Grump, there’s no way to know. The only time they showed downfield stuff was when Moss was clear in the back of the end zone. The other deep stuff, by the time you get the view, it’s too late to see if any chucking or holding was going on before the ball came out.

  69. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Us 49er fans are a pretty tough crowd on QBs. Someone mentioned Steve Young earlier and I am sure no one can forget the verbal abuse he took until he finally won a superbowl.
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    I do find it funny that we are such nitpickers here. I mean does anyone really feel bad for the way Alex has been treated? I don’t.Is that juvenile, maybe. Just remember, when in Maya do as the Mayans do.

  70. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niners won a hard fought game and we are sitting atop the division by ourselves in first place. Why the foik are we still talking about Alex Smith’s contract?
    That’s your tornado of BS.
    The coach and everyone watching the game thought the Seahag dbs were doing a lot of holding past the 5 yards allowed. Why does Chuck take Pete Carroll’s side of the argument and say that Crabtree can’t get seperation? Maybe cuz MC was getting mugged?

  71. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    If Crabs cannot separate while getting mugged, we had better hope that 1) he spends some more time in the weight room this off-season, or 2) that Goodell decides he doesn’t like muggers. Right now neither one is guaranteed. If the league is going to allow a more physical style of play at corner, fine and dandy, but they need to make it official, so that teams can consider it when drafting. I like Jenkins a lot, he has nice hands and a lot of potential. But if he is going up against Johnny Sample every week, he is going to struggle, and we probably would have drafted someone else – maybe Randle, or another bigger-bodied guy. When the league does not enforce the rules, it’s hard to plan ahead in building your roster.

  72. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Smith is rated eighth in the league? By what metric? Or is that a stat for losers?
     
    Something tells me it’s based on the most ridiculous measure of player performance ever devised, the QBR. I think Kaep’s is about the same. Does that tell you something?
     
    Mistakes down? Yes, it’s true. I’ll give you that, Grumpy. Alex has come a long way in that area. Bravo. Seriously. His other problems persist as they have for lo these many years. As I’ve said before the 2000 Ravens did it, we can, too. The same way.
     
    Grumpy, on the deep go route to the right the corner was in off coverage and didn’t hinder Williams’ release. On the subsequent deep left he was jammed as he passed the nickel corner but not trailed and had the deep corner and safety beat by a mile.

  73. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I remember Steve Young. I also remember John Brodie getting booed and pissed on (literally), telling his teammates, “Never take your helmet off until you’re in the locker room. I don’t remember Y.A. Tittle but I’ve read about how unappreciated he was around here. So, yeah, Alex is hardly the first to find the crown of starting NFL QB a burden.

  74. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Okay, NF. I figured someone here would know. Those were just misses then.

  75. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Coaches have been slowly pushing the Smith envelope, which they needed to do. In the short term it has had mixed results. I personally doubt he will ever be in an honest debate as an elite QB.
    Skeebs, the blog has pushed the QB stats and team record angle as an exoneration of Smith for a while, as represented in your topics. It makes nice copy that Smith had the league leading QBR for a short while, and only 5 picks last year etc, but it leaves out the amount of attempts which badly skews the results.
    Our team strength is D, ST and running game and since Smith was signed has never been QB driven and still isn’t. Point to wins, stats, editorials from varied sources, Harbs statements and it all still adds up to the weakest area on the team is QB with an honorable mention to WR although much less so this year.
    The 64 thousand dollar question is the same as last year, does he have enough? So far this year Smith has not done enough, consistently, to put legitimate doubts to rest. That does not equate to being a hater, it’s a different opinion to the Alex Smith appreciation society headquartered on this blog.

    I don’t like how they are using Kap, it hasn’t evolved since the first few successful plays they gave him and defenses don’t need much film of a guy doing the same thing over and over before they learn to defend it.
    Kap has more in his toolbox than hand off’s and running. I think if he was given the opportunity to make decisions at the LOS to include throwing (without that being the pre-determined call ala the Randy Moss into triple coverage play) he would again have the element of surprise and be successful again.
    Berger trots out the “who knows better than the coaches” line but that applies to every word written by anyone not a coach including his. Have you told Harbs about your sweep’s offensive playbook yet Bergs? I’m sure he will take it under advisement.

    RedBullDog has no opinion to offer unless someone tells him/her what to think, just a litany of sniping, stats, links and “gotcha” moments.

    I think Smith is playing for his spot on the team next year and he needs to do better to make it as a starter.

    As of right now he is in the driving seat but it’s getting warmer. I still have hope he can expand his game enough for the tough wins to be achievable by his play and please spare me the “6 comeback wins” stuff. Attributable to Smith directly is 2 and one of those he played poorly for 3 quarters and almost squandered 5 turnovers before donning his Superman outfit replete with underwear on the outside and kicking serious ass turning a losing and fairly dismal effort into the most exciting game of the year with 5 mins of outstanding QB play.

    I believe he is no more than an average QB right now and haven’t seen the improvement I was hoping for yet but there’s a lot of games still to be played before playoffs.

    OK, batter up.

  76. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Hater.

  77. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Good post 12th man. Here, here.

  78. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    or hear, hear.

  79. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    We’re all saying the same shit. Some say it better than others, but the truth of the matter is Smith hasn’t quieted the doubts out there about him.
    .
    Bergs fell off the fence and is pissed others took his spot. Sorry, you are stuck in the tree house with Skeebie and Bullit.

  80. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Or there, there.
    .
    As in “Where wolf?”

    “There. There wolf.”

  81. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    As long as win, the distance between the Treehouse and the Fence is not so great. A couple more subpar games and losses, though…

  82. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Hey the Seaghag 12th man has piped in today.
    More Seattle propaganda channelling Cheater Peter Carroll so why bother reading that trash?

  83. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    You have never been wiser when you said “We’re all saying the same shit”
    Exactly, please proceed.

  84. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I’m talking about those of us with reason, Bullit, not the neo-knights of Sir Alex’s Round table.

  85. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    Please proceed, let me open that door for you.

  86. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Wow. That’s your attempt at humor?
    .
    Yer weaker than Skeebs.

  87. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    His/Her response was an even bigger Paris Hilton moment than usual. Keeps trying to push that weak ass Squawks agenda under all its aliases and not a single bite. Lame, lame, lame.

    The jig is up RedBullDogit. Trot along to the mall I think they have a sale on.

  88. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    12th- The 49ers are running plenty of sweeps. I like it. We will give you 6 losses from last year while us realists continue to enjoy the comeback wins you missesd. Reality is nice. You can be happier if you go back to unca’s blog where you can kiss his ass some more.

  89. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    unca- My point was always I couldn’t tell because the coaching of the offense was terrible. When the coaching improved I was able to go to one side of the fence or the other. Too bad for you still lagging. Is it you don’t like Harbaugh’s coaching or you just can’t figure out Alex yet? Did you see the 6 comebacks last year or did your disciple 12th convince you it didn’t happen?

  90. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Berger to the rescue. I think I will hang out here in fantasy island for the moment, unless Skeebs dictates otherwise, but his skin seems a little thicker than yours and he is less afraid of a contradictory opinion.

  91. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    “The jig is up. And gone.”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3viQHsBFc4

  92. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    6 comebacks happened alright, but Smith wasn’t the main architect of 4 of them, except here on fantasy island, where only those disciples of Smith want to be heard.

  93. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    12th- Did you see the 6 comebacks by Alex Smith last year? Here is the one he won in a shoot out with Drew Brees in the play offs, just in case you missed it:
    http://youtu.be/PbxMz5h11CU

  94. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    12th man you chose the name so live with it’s implications especially to Niner’s supporters
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqbPYeaEtDA

  95. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Now that’s some funny shit Dennis.

  96. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, 5 mins of fame I wrote about above, he also had a heck of a game against Philly, those are the 2 directly attributable to Smith taking over the game and getting us the win. What else you got?

    Paris, thanks for the crayola explanation of what you think is a meaningful point to make. Everybody got it the first 5 times, it still doesn’t play. Your ignorance is limitless.
    Go build yourself some confidence by hiding behind some more screen names big man/woman.

  97. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    RT

    How pendantic of you.

  98. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    See here’s the difference between you and I Paris, not one single person reading this blog or Chucks believes I hide behind any other screen name no matter how many times you try to push it. On the other hand, everyone knows you hide behind other names and it’s not even a doubt. You lost whatever respect you thought you had by being the coward you are and you wouldn’t let it go when I tried to not bring your cowardice to this blog. You reap what you sow Redbull.

  99. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    12th- The only stat I care about is wins and losses. What stats are you looking at?

  100. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Same Berger, I want the Niners to win their 6th Lombardi so bad it drives me crazy. The lean years were soul destroying.
    The wins and losses column is far better than it has been in a decade and I’m happy about that. The fact is we came up 2 wins short of the goal. I don’t confuse wins with awesome QB play. I recognize the improvement and the team strength but I also recognize the shortcomings and that in itself makes me a hater apparently which is ludicrous.

    My fear is that the Niners fall short again and Smith is showing signs of if not regressing at least of reaching his ceiling and if that’s the case we won’t make it again and will have squandered another year of having this strength of team.

    Smith is the best hope for wins today, but if he doesn’t show more ability soon I think we need to push Kap harder for playing time and I mean real playing time not gimmicks.

    If Smith improves more I think we take a chance and run with with it.
    Either way the clock is ticking even if you can’t hear it.

  101. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    The San Francisco Giants are goddamned unbelievable.

  102. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Let’s see if I follow you, 12th. You’d like to push for playing time for a guy who’s never played a meaningful down at QB in the NFL because you’re afraid the current QB can’t win the SB this year, even though doing so would probably cause us to not even make the playoffs and have a chance at an SB during this clock ticking year.

  103. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Is that what you really understood of what I wrote or is it convenient to paraphrase me into that Skeebs?

  104. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    That’s exactly what you wrote, actually.

  105. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “but if he doesn’t show more ability soon I think we need to push Kap harder for playing time and I mean real playing time”

  106. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    see the word “but”?

  107. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Smith is either hitting a bad patch or his increased responsibilities are matching his ceiling. IF that’s the case, and the next few games will show it either way, we need to develop an option. You assume Kap will fail which fits your view nicely. What is your plan if Smith continues in a mediocre fashion? I presume this is the crux of the issue for you and I. For me Smith has not improved this year and if anything has regressed, at least so far. If you don’t think that’s the case and given your topics content it appears you don’t then we continue on and fingers crossed with Smith.

  108. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Wow Skeebs? A Coven? Way cool.
    Berger we night shift Witches have opinions too.
     
    We watch and see the same things each week with Alex.
    He’ll see something and hesitate.
     
    Using Cassel is a poor argument.
    It clearly proves that an average QB in a winning Offense can get by as he did in NE.
    Alex has the same vision issues Cassel has.
    Very similar guys IMO.
    Cassel has also been booed off the field and has given way to Brady Effn Quinn.
    In a perfect world, Alex’s stock goes up this Season and he’s traded after it, just like Cassel.
    His price tag will certainly help in that regard.
    Smart strategy by the front office.
     
    An efficient QB is fine for now.
    My beef with Alex hasn’t changed.
    He’s inconsistent, unsure and erratic.

  109. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    You can worry and fret all year if you want, 12th. I’m just enjoying the games and the wins and expect there will be many more and we’ll be in the playoffs to take our shot.

  110. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Alex = Conundrum
    NJ49er = Night Shift Witch
     
    I had to fact check Skeebs, a Coven usually consists of 13.
    NJ49er…..Party of 13, your table is ready.

  111. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    well apparently I can’t worry or fret all I want Skeebs, it makes me a hater.

  112. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    12th- Your plan is feeble and short sighted. Basically your plan is Smith gets better or put in Kappy. Smith is our QB and unless injured that will not change. He is 5-2 this year with a defense that is not creating turnovers anywhere near like last year. While you are worried about the QB I am more worried about the defensive line.
     
    Even the great QBs do not win Super Bowls when the D-line is not playing well. Justin Smith is 33 and I wonder if 30 year old Sope is playing hurt. If we don’t start rotating the D-line more, these guys will be banged up by the end of the year and then no QB is taking us anywhere. But of course, that will be Alex’s fault.

  113. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Alex is responsible for his job Berger.
    I agree on your assessment of the DL.
    I too want some attention paid to that piece of our Defense in April.

  114. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    NJ, I thought it was time to retire the Haters Club. Too stale. A Coven seemed to have a little more Hollywood appeal.

  115. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Why is it Smith has us at 5-2 Berger? The running game is off the charts but Smith has us at 5-2?

    If Smith continues to regress and we do nothing about it that is feeble and short sighted.

    I began the year saying Smith deserves the start based on last year. That notion is still my opinion today, but I see no improvement from last year and some regression. If that continues the team will make changes in playing time.

    I agree 100% about the D line, it’s a major concern. The cheap shot at the end is not necessary Berger, it’s for the likes of your buddy RedbulldogitHilton. Easy to do huh.

  116. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- You thought that the night court meetings by the hanging posse were going to get by me? Us 49er fans that think our QB is contributing to a 5-2 record have opinions too. The thin skinned hanging posse is mad he is a winner and are so baffled of his 19-5 record, and a shoot out play off win vs Brees, they think any QB could have been 19-5. Remember when Jerry Jones said that about Jimmy Johnson? Be careful of what you wish for, you just might get it. And if the new guy doesn’t win at a 19-5 clip, then what?

  117. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Pity the Lions. Their RB has fumbled twice inside the ten. The returner fumbled a punt. Stafford has now overthrown 3 wide open receivers. And they’re still in the game. Slightly.

  118. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    12th- I think it is funny you think it is a cheap shot. Is it not true? I was not joking.

  119. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    It is honestly funny to me that you write a snide comment of “But of course, that will be Alex’s fault.” addressing the defense, which is a cheap way to belittle another’s opinion and then try to dignify it with a straight face.

  120. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Had to turn away from the game for a bit to see what our next president had to say.
     
    These guys usally play each other pretty tough. Too bad the Lions offense is playing like, like, like, I know it’ll come to me.

  121. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Good choice Skeebs, very Halloween oriented as well.
     
    Jerry is a major douche Berger, that move has cost him dearly.
    The gift that keeps on giving too.
    And for the record I’m no longer in the hanging posse or a member of the Basher’s Club.
    I’m now a Witch.
     
    Be fair, Alex did what he did last year because there were no expectations.
    Now the flame is a little hotter.
    First place schedule, second time around for the Roman Offense.
    My expectations for his grasp of the job are still largely unfulfilled.
     
    Being the optimist that I consider myself to be, I will continue to pray to the football Gods for his continued improvement.

  122. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Couldn’t sneak that one by you, eh NoFear.

  123. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hardly!

  124. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    There it is! A 4th overthrow. Stafford wins this week’s Alex Lookalike contest!

  125. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yet most anyone you’d consider asking would say, Stafford is head and shoulders above Alex.
    He and Matty Ice get way too much praise IMO.

  126. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Stafford had a pretty impressive year last year. He doesn’t look like the same player this year.
     
    How about that Chilo Rachal? Who knew he’d make a leaky LG some day, too?
     
    He does win Skeebers. He left an open guy in the end zone without a look, too.

  127. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    How do I explain the SF Giants:
    http://youtu.be/vhuL79iEWDo

  128. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    And he lost. Alex would never do that.

  129. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    He beat the Vegas line with that score though.

  130. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh would never do that.

  131. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    McCloughan nailed that eval NoFear49er LOL.
    My guess?
    Scottie was already on Campus for the Toga Party when the revelation occurred.
     
    I also think the way to shut down Stafford is blanket Calvin.
    He’s lost in the headlights without him.

  132. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Ah, but for a running game to keep those safeties and corners honest.

  133. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    12th- Nice psychoanalyzing. Is that all you got! Consider yourself punked. Nice playing with you.

  134. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- I have to agree! Isn’t a good running game a good thing to have!

  135. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m anxious to see what the Rams game will hold for us following the BYE.
    Could the week off provide the ability to get LMJ and AJ into the mix?

  136. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m not sure that’s the case with Stafford, NJ49er. Defenses have had double coverage on 81 for some time. He should be used to that. Stafford likes to go to his TE Pettigrew a lot and Chicago took him away pretty well and Burleson was gone?. CJ is normally better than he was tonight at fighting for the ball and hanging on to it.
     
    I’ve liked the way Stafford could stand in the pocket and take a hit to make the play in the past. Maybe he’s been steamrolled one too many times and he’s watching the oncoming rusher and taking his focus off the target. I’ve seen that syndrome before, somewhere.
     
    But, it would certainly affect his game if a defense could take away Calvin.

  137. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- Coven, hanging posse, whatever, etc…. I see you guys like to come up with some monikers for us anti haters. It’s all good. There isn’t one of you here I wouldn’t enjoy having a beer with. Now back to some real blogging. Ths mushy shit just kills me.

  138. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I did not watch the football game. There was a baseball game worth watching while also catching a debate. The 4 or 5 throws I did see near the end of the game showed terrible mechanics by Stafford. He threw each throw off of his back foot and side arm, and I did not see him step into a throw. What was the coaching staff looking at. It was a pitiful effort. It was like he was afraid of getting hit?

  139. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah sure Berger, you punked me, in your own imagination. Is that all I got, no, far from it.

  140. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m not the moniker guy.
    Seems I’ve had a few hung on me however.
    It’s all just opinion and observations after all.
    Alex sparks that sort of stuff.
     
    NoFear49er good point.
    We did do a very good job on him which I’m sure contributed to our success.

  141. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’m so pumped about the SF Giants I don’t think I’ll get to sleep before 3 AM without a sleeping pill!

  142. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    The San Francisco Giants: Just when you think it’s over, that you’ve got it in the bag, we take that effing bag and kill you with it while we laugh.

  143. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    12th- You like to ball up in the fetal position and act like you are some kind of victim. Like you never have any personal attacks. It is a tiresome act. If you want to dish it out, sit like a blogger and take it.

  144. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    For the record Berger, speaking for myself, I’m not trying to get you.
    Just venting my Alex frustrations here on Skeebs’ Cyber Couch.
    Bottom line, several of us are expecting more from the QB position.
    It’s managed to earn us the Witches Coven moniker.
    Skeebs has to come up with something for your side perhaps?

  145. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Might I suggest…..
     
    The Good Alex Gobblins?
    Alex Wins Warlocks?

  146. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I like “The Realists!

  147. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    LMAO. We all are Berger.

  148. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    With the obvious exception being V.
    He’s stuck in the ’80s

  149. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- I see Alex as just part of the team and wins just team wins. The thing is Alex’s losing record has been thrown in our face so often in the past that what is good for the goose is good for the gander, right. Seems the shoe on the other foot doesn’t seem to fit for some.

  150. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- I had no doubt I could get you to laugh with the “Realists” moniker!

  151. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Just thought you were yearning for a moniker as cool as the Alex Smith Witches Coven.

  152. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Did you like the “sit like a blogger and take it” line? That was classic tornado of bullshit!

  153. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Well, my fellow blog expert, just call me 49ers Arm Chair QB!

  154. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m cool with the Team Berger.
    QB gets the focus for obvious reasons.
    An argument could’ve been made in the NFCC game that Goldson broke up 2 picks that could have sealed the game.
    Every play is important when the games are tightly contested.
     
    I seek a multi-faceted Offense that can wear down a Defense with ball control, not just Frank, more Frank and, some Kendall.
    I’m hopeful we’ll improve over the next 2 months.
    Tired of seeing us stall and sputter in critical situations.
    Alex has to make the difference when the ball is in his hands.

  155. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Lol, dish away Berger.

  156. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    49ers Armchair QB!
    http://www.squidoo.com

  157. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Oops, I thought I put up a picture of a 49ers Armchair QB. Type that in on the squidoo.com site and it should come up. It is the T-shirt I wear during the games! That one and the, Who’s Got It Beter Than Us shirt!

  158. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’d love to see what Harbaugh and Roman could do with LMJ or Kyle in a Wes Welker-ish type approach.
    We’re not utilizing speed and quick strikes enough IMO.
    I’m totally with you regarding the Spread.
    I can see the second half of our schedule including even more wrinkles toward the direction.

  159. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- Our offense looks very similar to what Harbaugh ran at Stanford with Andrew Luck. Don’t expect much in the way of change.

  160. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Did anybody notice Victor Cruz beat former 49er Madieu Williams for the game winning TD Sunday.

  161. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Gotta have some surprises come Playoff time Berger.
    Timing and rhythm my Friend, wear’em out on D.
    The long game with Alex is tedious at best.
    He’s not equipped for that, but I see the need to show it.

  162. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    He beat 4 guys in the ‘Skins Secondary.
    Pitiful approach by Haslett.
    Eli stuck the throw too.
     
    The ball RG III threw to take the lead just ahead of that play was a thing of beauty.
    I’d kill to see Alex do that.

  163. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    12th man is a Seahag troll here to
    bait posters into his tornado of BS arguments.
    The fact that he uses 12th man as his moniker is an insult to every true Niner supporter.He’s part of the Chuckles gang that goes to slurs when they can’t win an argument.Keep trying but you guys try to paint me as bulldog, red dog red bull and follow the Spitty theory that I’m the same guy as Chuckles and then Chuckles says I’m Skeebers.

    So just continue your tornado of BS.
    Very weakass to call me Paris but you continually insult yourself by referring to yourself as 12th man. You must be really pissed to have lost last Thurs. It took you 4 days to get over it.
    The Seahag troll is back.
    Very pedantic if I say so myself and revealing.

  164. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    How about this for Alex’s theme song Berger?
    Tinsley Ellis – Speak No Evil CD –
    Grow A Pair

  165. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    Balling up in a fetal position? Good one and you’ve driven the Seahag back under the rock.

  166. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Every team has a 12th man, Bullit – the fans.

  167. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah sure Paris, all these things are what you wish would happen. I don’t have to paint you as anything, you did that very effectively yourself.

    Your posts are why you are Paris, Paris. All style and no substance, you are the PFT of the blog world re-posting someone else’s opinions.

    Berger drove me off, or I went to bed, I wonder which is true?

  168. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    My car was parked all night. I never drove anybody anywhere!

  169. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Drive it like you stole it.

  170. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Oh a rental?

  171. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I couldn’t drive, I had to take a sleeping pill to go to bed after getting all amped up over the SF Giants win!

  172. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    looks like SF is the sporting nexus of the universe, what a comeback!

  173. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    12th man

    I post someone elses opinions?
    Seee my post at 1:12pm in which you use my opinion on your 4:14pm rant.

    Only 2 comeback wins for Smith last year?
    I am more than happy to point out your ignorance about all things Niners. Were you incarcerated or in a coma when this game was played last year?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMqfn85JD44&feature=related

  174. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    1:12 you are discussing the panthers, 4:14 I am discussing the Niners?

    I am off to work now, feel free to feel as though you have chased me away.

  175. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    12th man

    Learn to read.
    You know when to bail.
    Come back by Friday and use that tired you dig up the past tactic.

  176. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Interesting stat for the smatz minded:
     
    Drops per target:
    #8: Rams – 9 out of 208 targets
    #9: Seattle – 7 out of 158
    #11: Cardinals – 12 out of 238
    #26: 49ers – 12 out of 188

  177. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Nice to see we are down from the 10% mark we were at earlier.

  178. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    What I glossed over last night was NJ telling me using Matt Cassell was a bad example. Contrarily, I can’t imagine using a better example. He is getting benched in KC for Brady Quinn, but went 11-5 when running the Patriots offense for a year. Tom Brady went only 10-6 the next year. Does anybody doubt coaching makes a difference? Alex is running the 49er offense exactly how Harbaugh wants it ran. Us realists understand that.

  179. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Anybody catch this quote from the Fox Sports power rankings:
    “The Niners have yet to lose back-to-back games under coach Jim Harbaugh. Alex Smith’s 18 wins as a starting QB is the most in the NFL since the beginning of the 2011 season.”
    BTW, we were ranked #7.

  180. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    The historic Buffalo trouncing is going to the HOF. Smitty’s in the Hall and he’s not even done playing!

  181. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Seattle really only has 7 drops? Is that through the last game? Because it seemed they had five or six just on Thursday night. Nice of them to save them all for us.

  182. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    BTW, that was while Smith was regressing, too!

  183. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Through all 7 games, Grump. Courtesy of Sando.

  184. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Gee, the Knights of Sir Alex’s round table were busy hammering out their quest for the grail last night.
    .
    Thank God I was watching the Giants game.
    .
    No one doubts coachng makes a difference, Bergs. Alex is a prime example. Is coaching enough though? Yes, we were close last year. Everyone knows how hard it is to get there. Last year would have been #6 if the punts aren’t muffed, and Goldson doesn’t crash his way into breaking up 2 ints.
    .
    Where we are now is Harbaugh is looking to extend the passing game. We’ve had mixed results so far. Can we go there without a flurry of hater cries and childish bullshit? Apparently not. I mean, look at Bullit’s 10:42 post. All the speculation about what happens going forward is just that. Some people here wonder what happens if Smith doesn’t progress THIS year. Last year was great. But it’s DONE. The worry is NOW. Alex can hang his hat on that playoff win last year, but it won’t matter when we hit the playoffs this year. Like the rest of you clowns, I’m all in for these guys. I have been since 1967. I just would like to see more consistency. Yeah, Brady threw a pick a couple weeks ago to lose a game. Know what? He’s got 3 rings.

    Shit, Bill Walsh made Guy Benjamin look serviceable. Our system back then made Elvis Grbak, Steve Bono, and Steve DeBerg look good. KC ate shit (but did fine with Joe) on all those guys.
    .
    Is your point that Cassell is better than Brady because MC went 11-5 and Brady 10-6? Wow. That’s a stretch. Even for you.
    .
    Funny, I was calling the Coven the realists yesterday. As usual, the knights steal ideas and make them their own.

  185. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I noticed, Grump, that the more us bloggers talked about that game, the more drops and would-be TDs Seattle had and the more bad throws Smith had. Some short term memories recede, but Coven’s expand!

  186. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck’s new toy: Sir Alex and the Round Table. Can’t wait for Chuck to run that by Twinfan. He’ll have to ban himself from his own site!

  187. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    unca- Is that how you interpret my Brady/Cassel comparison? I thought even you were smarter than thinking I said Cassel is better than Brady. That is what I get for assuming you have a few brain cells. When you called yourself stupid I guess you meant it.

  188. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    Anytime Chuck can’t give you a legit answer he tells you to lighten up because he was joking.
    I prefer posse. So the posse eats it up.

  189. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Like I keep saying some people just can’t simply enjoy being in first all alone.
    You can tell some of these clowns are used to being bottom feeders and never experienced how it used to be.
    Nothing like speculation and playing out all the negative what ifs. That way there’s coverage by the anti Alex zealots to say they always saw this coming.

  190. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Then what’s the point, Bergs? It’s all about the record, right? Which means you think Cassell is better than Brady in NE’s system. Your words not mine, skippy.
    .
    Skeebs, shut up. The adults are talking. You and Bullit can wet yourselves over the Buffalo game back in the tree house.

  191. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs, I only remember three bad throws in this game by Alex, the two to KW and the INT. If Alex connects on just one of those, the ‘posse’ would call off the hunt for the week and go have a beer. I think Alex would agree in each of those three cases he’d like to have those balls back to try again.
     
    On Seahawk drops, this source says ten, compared to our 13 this year: http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=232
     
    I’m not sure why there is a discrepancy with Sando.
     
    And I confirmed here, it was five drops by the Seahawks against us: http://www.nwsportsbeat.com/seahawks/seattle-what-went-wrong-week-7-201012/
     
    So, the Seahawks had five drops in the first six weeks – and then five more in one night against us. Like I said, nice of them to do that!

  192. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Isn’t Sando a ‘hater’ as well?
    .
    Good to have a member of the Coven in the mainstream media.

  193. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Actually Alex threw one ten feet over KW’s head on a five yard hook and threw another into the ground over the middle between VD and Crabs. Also threw one to nobody in particular in what looked like a hot read deal to Crabs but Crabs was nowhere near.
     
    All pretty normal stuff but it seems someone is calling me out on my assertion of more than two bad throws.
     
    I think the series that ended in the INT sums up the heartburn some fans and coaches have with Alex and play calling. The possession ended with a huge run by Gore to their 8YL. Hunter runs, Kaep runs, Alex throws INT.

  194. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I can’t remember the first two there, NF. But I missed a few short sections of the game dealing with kids’ dinner and bedtime issues. The last one I remember, that could be either on AS or Crabs. Alex read one pattern, Crabs read it the other way. No one is ever going to say out loud who was wrong, I would wager.
     
    The INT was the painful one. I don’t expect to always connect on deep routes, or to always complete the pass. But turning it over in the Red Zone is a pisser. Change that play and the game grade for Alex would have been better. Not outstanding, but not as disappointing, either.

  195. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Gotta keep the old guy busy over his Alex microscope. Peyton had a similar mis-connect with his WR last week only it didn’t sail harmlessly OB – it went the other way for 6.

  196. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    For the Anti Alex Posse this is the unfortunate reality for you.
    Go ahead and spend the entire week slurring AS and whining and crying. At the end of the day you look at the depth chart and you see Alex Smith starting QB 49ers.
    That bothers some of you to no end.
    That makes me feel good especially when the Niners are in first place.
    There is no need to talk about this because it’s not negotiable.

    Who’s got it better than us?
    NOBODY!!!

  197. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    You guys are so cute to point out errors by other QBs. Does Peyton have a ring? Is Peyton going to the Hall of Fame? Yes and yes. Does Alex have a ring? Is he going to the Hall of Fame? No and not likely.
    .
    In the Catch game, Joe did his best to lose that game by throwing 3 picks. Can Smith bounce back from adversity? We’ll see.
    .
    Is it too much to ask for consistency from our starting QB?

  198. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, I hear Tiger Beat is looking for a new writer.

  199. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    They’re doing a remake of Fantasy
    Island. You’ve got the inside track to the Tatoo role.
    You can ring a bell, say da plane da plane and say right boss. And you’ve got the right height and stature so they won’t have to do any alterations. Hyuk!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x_QbVDlLbI

  200. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Exactly right, Grumpy. I saw a backer blitzing and thought it could be a hot read to Crabs but who knows? Didn’t look like Alex was under much pressure though. I think Gore was in the protection, too.
     
    I don’t fault Alex for stuff like that Skeebers. Those things happen to everybody. What I don’t like that he does constantly is he turned his back on the other three receivers on that play. That draws the defense to his target before he throws. And I couldn’t help but notice Alex is dead last in the NFC in 4th quarter QBR for those that like to quibble over QBR stats.
     

  201. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Seems the throw into the ground was because Alex’s face mask was turned around so he was looking out the ear hole.

  202. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    You didn’t mention it last year when he was up there at the top with Eli. Your Alexscope must have been in the shop then.

  203. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Ah, yes, the face mask throw. Would have given us a first down at the Seattle 35 if the refs had called it. Wonder how NF could miss that one. They showed it two or three times in replay.

  204. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Kind of hard to believe these microscope reports when such an obvious incident is redacted.

  205. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Damn. Too bad we don’t have last year’s Alex playing in the 4th quarter. . .

  206. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    You have a real talent for missing the point other people’s posts, Chuck. It must be genetic.

  207. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I didn’t go into that play because I didn’t assign any blame to Alex on it other than a bad throw. Which it was.
     
    Alex had five receivers after Hunter went in motion wide to the right. It was a quick hitter. Alex had Williams open the whole play but waited for either VD or Crabs to come open. He had Hunter in the right flat with Moss going deep on a decoy, but never looked their way. Crabs and VD both had hit their marks and were working back to Alex. Clemons reached past Staley and grabbed Alex’s facemask mid-throw. I don’t blame Alex for the bad throw but he passed up two easy completions in the process and did nothing to avoid getting hit, which would have been pretty easy as they only sent three.
     
    I know it’s hard to accept your prince isn’t perfect.

  208. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Keep spitting up inanities, Skeebs. All I hear on this blog is how well Alex did last year. How he won a playoff game. How he was the 9th best QB in the NFL last year. Or had the best completion percentage to WRs under 6′ tall. Whatever the metric du jour is. Whoopie.
    .
    Great. Old news though. Smith is still a work in progress. He’s played well at times THIS year. He’s played shitty at times this year. His main constant is his inconsistency. Is that too much for your brain to handle? Yes, Alex got some coaching up last year. His improvement was consistent to what was going on once Jimmy Hat left. My concern is one that seems to appear that he may have plateaued. If so, then we get to see games like Seattle more often. No more shots downfield, as Alex seems reluctant to pull the trigger. If Smith goes out and plays well vs AZ, great. I’m glad. It’s like the Crabtree thing you gals all went into a tizzy about before the season started.
    .
    I guess rose-colored glasses are de riguer around here. Mandatory wear for the whos-who of Skeeberland.

  209. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    So if he throws short you’ve been saying that has been a major problem. So he waits for something deep to clear and gets face masked. Apparently he screwed up by not throwing short. You really need to make up your mind one of these days. Me, I’m just happy we won.

  210. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    For you dolts (no offense Chuck) who think QBs are great every week or they’re nothing burgers or regressing or other such nonsense, here’s a sample of Eli’s stats last year:
     
    77.9, 84.5, 74.0, 101.0, 45.5, 61.5, 136.7.

  211. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I would not say he’s plateaued until he has a solid month of this, Chuck. I’m not going to use the finger as an excuse, we’ve had enough of that over the last 7 years. I WILL say that everyone on a football field gets beat up over the course of a season, and guys have games where they play better and games where they don’t. I’d say in some respects he is incrementally better than last year. Third down conversions were up at one point, I’m not sure where we stand now and I’m cooking dinner so I can’t go looking for that. We’re getting the ball to the WRs better than we ever did in 2011. I don’t think Alex will EVER be a Top Five QB like a Brady or Rodgers or Eli, but I think he can be solidly middle of the pack, and maybe a little better, flirting with the ten spot. With this team, that might be enough. If not, then Kappy gets his shot. Wash, rinse and repeat until results improve. I do not see any value in replacing AS this year. This is his year, for better or worse. And I’ll worry about next year in the Spring. That’s my view from the fence, lol.

  212. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I just heard Ted Johnson who is a 49er beat writer say on ESPN radio that many of Alex’s ints are because the play calling is getting too predictable. He said the routes where receivers are supposed to be, there are defenders there instead. I interpret that as Alex throwing to a spot where receivers were supposed to be but they weren’t, but the defenders knew to be there.

  213. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Those good days look pretty good, don’t they, Skeebs? Not sure what your point is. And show me where I say everyone is perfect but Alex. Again, everyone has good days and bad. Picks or TDs. Sacks, fumbles and the rest. Eli? He’s got 2 rings. So, he’s obviously had some better days than Alex. This team could have won it all last year WITH the current talent. It didn’t work out. Is it Alex’s fault? Sure, partly. He’s the QB. Everyone bears the brunt of a loss to varying degrees. The muffed punts were devastating. As were the blown-up INTs by Goldson, and the non-fumble call by the refs. Know what? In the end, he didn’t get it done.
    .
    The new WRs were brought here to get back to the NFC championship game. The Niners are trying to up their passing attack. So far? Mixed results. Early on, they were connecting on short routes, and doing well. When they opened up the passing deeper, the results weren’t as good. The Jets game in particular. The Buffalo game? Fantastic. The Giants and Seattle games? Not so much. I said at the time, that losing Manningham was tough because he does a better job og getting off the line clean, and not being thrown off his routes as easily as Crabs seems to be.
    .
    So here we are left to our devices, waiting to see which Alex comes out to play on Monday night.
    .
    Grump, I’m certainly not advocating any QB change this year. Unless there’s some major disaster in Alex-land. He would have to completely fall off the table to get replaced.

  214. robNo Gravatar says:

    9ers 20 retardinals 16
    6-2 at the bye
    superbowl here we come !

  215. robNo Gravatar says:

    IMHO

    kappy will start one day ! for now i just want to see harbaugh get him in on some more plays!

  216. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Actually, i thnk they should quit on the Cappy plays for now. Put him in for garbage time? Sure. But in the middle of these drives? They’ve done nothing in recent games and have only served to kill the momentum.
    .
    It’s Alex or bust this year.

  217. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Let me also cherry pick some stats for you.
    Crabtree had a better day on Thurs Night than Megatron and Larry Fitzgerald.
    Crabtree has 34 receptions and 20 of them are for 1st downs.
    Crabtree also is doing an excellent job of runblocking downfield.
    Just an observation.

  218. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I should’ve added onthis past Sunday for Megatron and Fitzgerald

  219. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Every offense has been sub par this year against the Seahawks. The funny thing is we won. How the hell did that ever happen with Alex Smith at QB?

  220. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    And 24 QBs had better games than Alex last weekend, Bullit. I’m guessing, numbnuts. You look it up. It’s probably worse.
    .
    Point?
    .
    The funny thing is you guys dumbing this down to a black/white issue. It’s not either/or. But you know that, Bergs. You just like playing the dick.

  221. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Those of us in the Coven/Posse discussion aren’t waiting in the weeds to say ‘We told you so’ Bullit.
    Not unless V is here under yet another assumed identity.
     
    For me, it’s simply a frustration to see the constant hesitation he, (Alex) exhibits.
    I have no need to expect failure when we’ve clearly shown the ability to stand toe to toe with the Playoff caliber Teams to date.
     
    What is apparent is, Alex not seeing the entire Field, as NoFear49er has also idenitifed.
    My concern is that we have the ability to play from behind in crunch time when you need Alex to have Joe’s ice water calmness and command to use all of his weapons when the Defense gets to a ‘spot’ before his intended targets do.

  222. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Yes unca that is correct, I am playing the dick. Funny thing is you are the dick!

  223. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, no team has come close to 100 yards on the ground against SEA. We were around 170. Also no team has gained less in passing yards than we did. What should we conclude from that?

  224. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, Cassel stepping into the Pats’ Offense vs Cassel being the leader in KC was my point.
    Difference being his lack of ability to carry a Team.
    Very similar to Alex in that specific comparison view.
     
    I too appreciate that Alex is winning.
    That is where you can use your coaching comparison.
    Alex benefits from the system he’s in now as Cassel did when he was operating in NE.
    Is Alex a ‘system’ QB or is he able to step up and command the role?
     
    My beef is his decision making and pass completions.
    No, it’s not ALWAYS Alex’s fault, I never intended it to come off that way.
    However, by expressing my concerns,I’ve obviously been labeled as a basher.
     
    Knowing what happened to us in the NFCC game last year, our inability to convert 3rd downs or score TDs in the Red Zone, remains a concern to date. Agreed?
    I’m not panicking, not predicting failure, not hedging a bet to cover my opinion down the road or, suggesting Alex will never do it.
    Simply venting my frustration that his inconsistancies continue to be an issue.
     
    Beating the snot out of Buffalo is no great accomplishment when you follow it up with a deer in the headlights effort against a Team you will likely need to topple on the road to Ring number 6.

  225. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, the guy we were watching fall apart last night threw for over 5000 yards and 41 TDs last year. His supporters have a great season to point to and reason to hope he will become that passer again.
     
    Alex has never shown any greatness and in year eight of his pro career is still struggling with the basics. The fact that any slight criticism or questions about him is somehow construed as offensive may just be an indication of the underlying insecurity some folks have in their position.

  226. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- Are you saying if Tom Brady went to the Chiefs they would be in the play-offs? I don’t. Curious your opinion.

  227. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- While you and NJ are panicking, I’m happy to be 5-2. Would you rather some more stats? The Q you asked earlier, passing and rushing stats? Yes, I liked it, we won. It reminded me of a win from the 17-0 Miami Dolphins with Bob Griese as QB. It was fantastic.

  228. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I hear you NoFear49er, stats schmatz.
    Show me you’re making progress and gaining confidence.
    Alex is a stand up guy, he’s taken his share of ridicule and continues to work, you have to admire him for that.
    As I’ve stated, ad nauseum, he still runs too hot and cold.

  229. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, I just indicated above, I’m NOT panicking.
    As for Brady going to KC?
    No different than Joe going there.
    If the system doesn’t fit, results will vary.
    Brady however, hands down, commands the QB role.
     
    Can Alex make ALL the reads/throws required at this level?
    I say not even close.

  230. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, there are QBs in this League that you just know, ahead of time, are going to get the job done.
    Brees, Eli and Aaron would come to mind.
    Don’t look at Alex beating Brees so much as Alex beating the Defense.
     
    Alex needs to beat top shelf Defenses in the Playoffs.
    That’s how I measure a QB.
     
    Had we not had the 1st Rd BYE last year and say, for sake of argument, had to play on the road in NY or GB, could Alex have beaten either Defense if the running game didn’t click?
    We’ll never know.
     
    What I’m tying to say is, does Alex command the position like any of these 3 guys do?
    Be honest……

  231. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    When Brady gets pressured he is merely average. He has had more time to throw than any QB in history.

  232. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Those other three run an offense that runs predominately the Spread offense. I believe Alex runs a Spread offense extremely well. Harbaugh is not going to run an offense that predominately uses the Spread. He runs it sporadically and when we fall behind by two scores or more. Run the Spread consistently until our WRs get used to the strategy and Alex will be a stat eater too. Why do I know that? He did that in college and when we get behind. Six comebacks last year says so. But Harbaugh’s offense cost Andrew Luck two Heismans and it will make his QBs look less effective in the stat race. Harbaugh banks on the running game and Alex Smith has the mentality Harbaugh looks for. Alex might be the perfect QB for Harbaugh. I know he is for now. I know it is frustrating for you stat mongers but Alex and Harbaugh have the most wins of any team since the beginning of the 2011 season. That is the stat I like!

  233. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    If we would have signed Peyton Manning you guys would have nothing to bitch about now.

  234. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m not a stats guy Berger.
    Those are for the Fantasy guys.
    As stated, I’m all about Ring number 6.
    If we continue to win we’ll have our shot.
    No matter the style of Offense, I just don’t see Alex scaring a Defense like these guys do.
     
    Remember, Brady never had a premier WR early in his career either, yet still took care of his positions’ responsibilities.
     
    The biggest improvement I want to see from Alex is the vision and ball placement.
    He may not have it in him.

  235. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    And I’ve already agreed with you, Alex might be better off in the Spread.

  236. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Del I think we were looking to obtain Peyton for a bargain rate, much like Randy.
    We obviously convinced Randy he could win here.
    The QB position continues to provide us with hours and hours of lively debate.
    I just can’t figure out why?

  237. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    The 49ers are 17-0 under Jim Harbaugh when they have at least 25 rushing attempts. 1-5 when they have fewer.
    .
    So when Alex has to throw a lot, we lose. Who woulda thunk it?

  238. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger you know when Brady got Randy they were poised to rule the NFL and nearly pulled off the Perfect Season together.
    One small problem.
    Eli beat their Defense when it mattered.

  239. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hence my frustration Del.
    Guess you deserve a seat with the Coven group.

  240. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Saying Deion Branch, Randy Moss, in his prime, and Wes Welker are not premier receivers is like saying lasagna is not good for dinner. Gronk is also the premier TE in the NFL and is paired with Aaron Hernanez. I heard some former player make that statement a week or two ago and had to laugh.

  241. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I predicted Brady to lose that game and had money on it. It was the pressure Brady received from the Giants pass rush that made the biggest difference.

  242. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Our offensive philosophy is our biggest problem with the passing game. Not the QB. I would like to see a more exciting offense but that is not Harbaugh, and since we are 18-5 since the start of the 2011 season I can’t complain much.

  243. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Boil it down to the QB position Berger.
    Brady hits his targets and uses all of them.
    Alex has a long way to go to match Brady in terms of handling the position.
     
    Like you, I predicted a NYG win as well because of the Defensive pressure they generated.
     
    However, don’t cloud the picture I’m trying to paint.
    Focus simply on the QB.
     
    Can Alex dissect a Defense like Brady can?
    He’s got oodles more time in the pocket now to do it compared to what he had afforded to him last Season.

  244. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh and Roman realize they have to throw, and run, in order to win.
    We surprised everyone last year, including ourselves.
    Now we’ve added pieces to help that problem.
    You still need the QB to compliment the process.

  245. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Brady also costs 20 million per year. Alex gets 8. The Patriots parted ways with Richard Seymour for Brady’s salary. Which players do we cut to get a Spread QB to run the Jumbo offense. The beauty of Harbaugh’s offense is he doesn’t have to break the bank to get a top fantasy QB. Alex is a good fit at a price that allows for being deeper at other positions. Like I was saying earlier, he might be a perfect fit for Harbaugh.

  246. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Inre to 9:44, I agree and am glad we have a good QB already.

  247. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Need Alex to take us over the top Berger.
    Quick decisions, accurate passes and command of the Offense.

  248. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Brady earned his Contract I’d say.
    Alex got paid before he achieved anything as a Pro.

  249. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Perhaps therein lies the problem?
    Tom had something to prove.
    Mental makeup perhaps?

  250. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    In Brady’s first 2 years as a starter he had a All Pro WR in Troy Brown. He caught 101 passes and 97 passes in those 2 years.

  251. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Compare the completion percentages Bullit. Brady and Alex.
    I’m going for the ability to hit targets and score TDs moreso than the guys they’re throwing to.
    Troy Brown was to Brady what Vernon was to Alex early on.

  252. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Alex is probably just now getting into the Brady completion pct range I’d guess.

  253. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    I’m not even suggesting that Smith is even in Brady’s class.
    Just responding to your comment that Brady was without decent receivers in his first years.
    He had Brown and Patten.
    You devote too much energy channeling your frustration against Smith.
    Obviously you also ignore the venom that your fellow coven members are spewing in the form of personal attacks and flames.
    So please don’t keep saying there is no I told you so from your fellow posters who engage in juvenile name calling and personal attacks.

  254. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The stat that matters is wins. Only one stat matters more, Super Bowl wins. Alex has more wins than any other QB since the start of 2011. Maybe one of his SB wins comes this year. We’ll see soon enough.

  255. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The bottom line is who’s the best QB on the roster that will get you to the Super Bowl.
    The Manning argument keeps rearing it’s head. Manning does not come with a discount. Manning blows up the budget to the point you start losing starters like Bowman and Goldson as early as next year. Then why is Denver only 3-3 with their missing piece?
    I like the 5-2 that we’re at better.

  256. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Here I am defending Alex Smith when I would rather have Kaeperick beat him out for the job. The fact is Alex is winning at a high rate so Kappy will need to wait a bit.
     
    I know the stat posse gets frustrated, especially since they are the QB experts around the blogs and love to tell us the finer points about the position, but wins are nicer than other stats.

  257. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    We’re likely to lose starters next year in any event.
     
    With Peyton, we probably would have lost Goldson THIS year. Maybe a couple of other players as well. Certainly, whatever Jimbo says, basic mathematics tells you AS would NOT have been back.
     
    Bottom line is, Peyton did not really want to come here. I’ve heard that the ‘pressure’ of “Super bowl or bust” rankled him. If true, I’m disappointed in him, and don’t want him. Those tweets came from ‘sources near him’ but he never made any effort to distance himself from them. If Peyton had said, “Hell Yes, load that wagon and let’s go get a Lombardi,” I would have been all in. The way it actually played out left me thinking differently.

  258. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Good one, Grump. After all, if Peyton didn’t win the SB here, he would be no better than Smith!

  259. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Being better than Tebow was a much easier task.

  260. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I have never fully understood why the Colts let “their franchise” Manning walk in the first place.
    With the new rookie salary scale they could’ve drafted Luck and groomed him to replace Manning in 2 or 3 years or have him as insurance in case Manning couldn’t do it.
    So you showcase Manning for a year and eliminate the health issues and you most likely trade him for 2 or 3 #1s in 2013 if you think Luck can do it.
    Andrew Luck is taking a beating and ranked 31st. It’s bad when Blaine Gabbert and Mark Sanchez are ranked ahead of you.
    Luck could’ve used a year holding a clipboard.

  261. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Then I think about and realize the beating that Manning would be taking as a Colt because they let their Oline fall apart. A tough situation but still a head scratcher because they got squat for Manning.

  262. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    They saved mucho millions of dollars.

  263. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    These throwbacks look like clown outfits or halloween keystone kops prison wear. Somebodys going to buy them but gawd they’re ugly.
    http://tinyurl.com/9t4ha79

  264. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    Pro Football Reference has a metric for 4th quarter comeback wins.
    Last year he had 6 and you would have to go back to 2007 to find another.
    Definitely a combination of better coaching and being on a team with enhanced talent.

  265. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

  266. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, you never fully understood that? Really? They saved $95 million by not signing him. At the time, they had NO assurance he would even play again. Plus they had the chance to get Luck, a guy who could very well be the real deal for the next 15 year, and part with a guy who has had 5 neck surgeries and wants $95 million.
    .
    Pretty easy call in my book. Luck gets a trial by fire. Aikman survived it, Elway, and a few others. Alex is still wading through the process, but Indy has a solid coaching staff in place. The Niners never did til recently.
    .
    Hey Bergs, who do you think the Niners will meet in the playoffs? The Giants perhaps? How did that last game go? The regular season is wonderful for stat-gathering. Or not.
    .
    As far as Peyton Manning goes, I don’t buy the ‘Super Bowl or bust’ mentality here as being a reason hwe wouldn’t come. The truth is, Manning would not get the control to run the offense his way. Jim Harbaugh would never give him that authority. Fox gladly handed him the reins in Denver. Which is why he went there.

  267. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The point being, this team, as it stands now, doesn’t look quite ready for prime time. It’s a long season, but the schedule still has the Saints, the Bears and the Pats, ans well as the 5 division games. Tough sledding ahead.

  268. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Speaking of stats, how many 4th quarter comebacks this year?

2017 Schedule
Sept. 10: vs Carolina: L 3-23
Sept. 17: at Seattle: 9-12
Sept. 21: vs. L.A. Rams: L 39-41
Oct. 1: at Arizona: L 15-18
Oct. 8: at Indianapolis: L 23-26
Oct. 15: at Washington: L 24-26
Oct. 22: vs. Dallas: L 10-40
Oct. 29: at Philadelphia: L 10-33
Nov. 5: vs. Arizona: L 10-20
Nov. 12: vs. N.Y. Giants: W 31-21
Week 11 — Bye
Nov. 26: vs. Seattle, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 3: at Chicago, 10 a.m.
Dec. 10: at Houston, 10 a.m.
Dec. 17: vs. Tennessee, 1:25 p.m.
Dec. 24: vs. Jacksonville, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 31: at L.A. Rams, 1:25 p.m.
 
2017 Draft Class
1. DE Solomon Thomas
1. ILB Reuben Foster
3. CB Ahkello Witherspoon
3. QB C.J. Beathard
4. RB Joe Williams
5. TE George Kittle
5. WR Trent Taylor
6. DT D.J. Jones
6. LB Pita Taumoepenu
7. CB Adrian Colbert
 
2017 Prognostications
Bullit: 5-11
Chuck: 9-7
Grumpy: 4-12
Mr Fletch: 5-11
NJ49er: 6-10
Rob: 9-7
RTFirefly: 5-11
Skeebers: 6-10
Winder: 4-12

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