Stinker on the Green

That was butt ugly, folks. Is it too soon to panic?

The 49ers lost to the Giants 26-3, but it could have been a lot worse if the Giants hadn’t laughed their way through the fourth quarter.

The game started out well, but two long drives netted only three points. Then Alex Smith threw a surprising pick and it was all Giants from that point on. Smith added two more picks along the way, following up his sterling game against the Bills by laying his biggest egg in two years.

For the second time this season, the defense got toasted. That’s a trend, not an aberration. They are not as good as last year, which is also a trend. In the past five years, the 49ers have followed every great defensive season by regressing the next year. The same holds true for Vic Fangio’s track record as a DC. They are not getting any pass rush, Justin Smith and Aldon Smith are not terrorizing anyone, the secondary is dropping picks, not making them, and that’s only when they manage to be near the ball when it’s caught by the opposing team.

Our special teams are no longer special. They’re giving up long returns routinely and David Akers has lost his magic toe. The team is not winning the turnover battle and the regression to norm prophecies are unfortunately looking like solid, statistical science.

The razzle dazzle plays that have marked the Jim Harbaugh/Greg Roman era look brilliant when they work and clumsy, momentum killing nonsense when they don’t. Whether they work or not seems to depend on whether the opposing team is well coached or not. The Giants are well coached. They stuffed the vaunted Colin Kaepernick wildcat like it was nothing more than a house pet. Offense is a rhythm game and the team has gotten away from that concept with its infatuation with gadgetry.

Even more disturbing is that in both the Minnesota loss and the Giants debacle, both our offensive and defensive lines have been outplayed. Perhaps it’s time to install some Singletary focus on the basics and put the cute shit on the shelf. After the game, even Harbaugh questioned the disruptive nature of the in-and-out burger QB shuffle.

Watching the Giants WRs haul in any kind of pass that was remotely near them made me wonder if any 49er WR would be anything more than a 4th stringer on the New York team. Our WRs did better than in last year’s NFC championship game, but the only one who looked dangerous Sunday was Randy Moss, and we hardly play him, for some increasingly mysterious reason.

Last year’s team was focused and resilient, as witnessed by the six fourth quarter comebacks. This year’s team lacks that grit. Two games have not gone according to plan and the team has folded in both of them, looking confused and bewildered in the process.

It’s time to put away the we-belong-in-the-super-bowl hangover from last year. The Giants look fully capable of repeating. The 49ers don’t even look like a serious challenger. With three straight division games on the horizon, even making the playoffs will look like a stretch if the team doesn’t hunker down and win these division games.

The team will probably be without LT Joe Staley for the Seattle game Thursday night. Staley suffered a concussion against the Giants, meaning RG Alex Boone will move to LT and big lug Leonard Davis will fill in at RG. Not a good time for an offensive line shuffle.

All in all, the worst game of the Harbaugh era. We just said that a few weeks ago about the Minnesota game. But this game was way more worse. If we’re saying it again come Friday morning, both the team and its coaches will be feeling the Nolan/Singletary heat.

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74 comments on “Stinker on the Green
  1. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Great title, Skeebs!

  2. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Bury it. Get the Hawks, It’s as simple as that. 5-2 and division leader or 4-3 and the Falcons.
    Play football they way Jim Harbaugh teaches, or play another way and get ready to get your ^%&& handed to you again.

  3. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Ball control. Running game. Defense. I forgot the no turnovers part. I jinxed my Niners.
    Stick with it. It worked in September, it’ll work in January and February.
    I call it SinghaughBall.

  4. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er suggested last night we may have overlooked the Giants, which seemed silly at first. But maybe he’s right. Harbaugh might have realized it was more important to prepare for Seattle, knowing it’s a short week, then have a week and a half to prepare for AZ and another two weeks to prepare for the Rams. We sweep those games, we’re in the driver’s seat.

  5. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Besides Rogers dropping the pick six yesterday the play that summed up the day for me was putting CK in after th long gainer to Moss, CK running the read option with a fake to an imaginary Frank Gore and then taking a 11 yard loss. THey put Smith in 2nd and 21 and told him to clean up the mess.
    Two guys that have been MIA Delanie Walker and Ray McDonald.
    Alson Smith might be better as a situational pass rusher because he hasn’t had a sack in weeks and is below average learning the position. Didn’t think I would say this but the one change in this year’s D and last years is Aldon Smith for Haralson.
    The defense might need a guy who does the dirty work and doesn’t allow the other team to set the edge.

  6. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’m not panicking. The play calling wasn’t consistently good. We killed our own rhythm with ill timed gadget plays. I Don’t even worry much about that. Is what we are seeing a change in offensive philosophy? If so it will need time to settle in. For now the coaches will probably back off a bit. On defense I saw Sopoaga grabbing his knee a couple of times. He is so stout for the run game that maybe he is hurt and that was exposed yesterday?

  7. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Two of the better positive plays of the game for the Niners were made by Moss. What happens after that? He disappears and they no loner target him. That’s bad coaching on Roman/Harbaugh
    If you’re going to run the ball
    then have Walker in to block.
    Otherwise have Moss in running fly patterns to open up the medium passing game for Manningham, VD and Crabtree.
    Moss draws 2 to 3 guys when he goes deep. That means someone else should be open.
    Why not put Moss,K Williams and Ginn in at the same time in a speed package and have VD run
    underneath their speed patterns?
    The Niners basically neutered themselves by not utilizing yesterday’s 3 Niners they were most afraid of, Moss, VD and Gore.

  8. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The 3 Niners that the Gnats were most afraid of what I meant to say.

  9. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Gore had 8 carries and Hunter 4 carries and they combined to average 5.2 yards a carry.
    With the game within reach all through the first half at 10-3
    and 10-9 if Akers makes those FGs
    why would you abandon the running game in a tight game? The Gnats were not stopping Gore/Hunter
    and we decided to become pass happy leading to sacks and INTs
    and playing directly into the Gnat’s wheelhouse on what they do best.

  10. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    We have to deal with this ahole on Thurs. Easy to chirp and rub it in when you win. And this class act went to Stanford>?http://tinyurl.com/8cvwzuz
    Tom Brady’s going to the HOF and has 3 Super Bowl rings. What does Sherman have besides a big mouth?

  11. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Alex would’ve fit right in on the NY Giants. Phfsyfical with an “F”.
    The Hawks couldn’t play that way last season.

  12. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Seriously, Skeebers and Bullit. That was the single worst pass I have since an NFL QB throw in a long, long time. It was a game until then.
    The balloons out here have less lift. “It was too high.”
    The hunters out here shoot things with far less air time than that puppy.

  13. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    *seen*

  14. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    *but not heard*

  15. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/14/giants-49ers-26-3-alex-smith-interceptions-eli_n_1965652.html
    I can’t hear it, Skeebers. I’m still waiting for that duck to flutter to the ground. It might come down yet.
    Huffington Post? 2 more games on National TV coming up.

  16. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    You knew they had the WildKaep figured out when the unblocked lineman was JPP and he didn’t move when the ball was snapped. He waited and forced Kaep to make the play *before* he reacted. Scrap that college gadget, Harbaugh.
     
    Give Kap a series or a quarter of real plays so he can step in as a backup if and when.
     
    They won the LOS, both sides, ergo the game.
     
    David Baas beat Sopoaga and RJF all day and by himself. We put the help on Justin. Alex just quit looking for Vernon early, and Gore for that matter.
     
    Sopoaga saw a little rotation relief but I think RayMac and Justin played every snap, nickel or base. Gassed by the fourth quarter. RJF had a series of five or six playsearly in the fourth quarter and they ran right over him. He should have been fresh. We even put Sopoaga and RJF in together to slow down Bradshaw. It worked. Too little, too late.
     
    Harbaugh, went away from his game again and paid for it, again. WTF?
     
    I guess it was him that I should have worried about the effects of reading his own press.
     
    I was sure I would read here today about all the reasons it wasn’t ALex’s fault. Thanks for not doing that.

  17. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Robert ran the last 40 of his TD run in 4.2. Bloody hell.
    I wish he wasn’t coming off a concussion and he was on the Coyotes.
    My bad. He is. 46 FF points and a W yesterday.

  18. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    It is vital that we run the ball
    against the Seahags. Packers gave up 8 sacks in a half when they tried to pass 90% of the time.
    Gore is a plodder and a grinder
    that will break tackles and start going for 7-15 yd runs as the game goes on. He needs to carry the rock and Hunter needs at lest 12 touches.
    Seems like nobidy uses the shovel pass anymore which is basically a forward lateral and should work in a spread shotgun offense.
    Throw some screens and throw to Miller coming out of the backfield.

  19. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I’m suprised the Niners are an 8 point favorite against the Seahags

  20. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    It would have been Alex’s fault if the rest of the team did not join in the dismal effort. At least we all know we played like shit. It could be worse. Dallas did everything right in order to win and still lost.

  21. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Rufus T, I played a game against a team with RGIII this week. It’s a 4 pt passing TD league so < 40 pt but I won with Jordy Nelson last night. The 49ers D and Vernon didn't contribute much to my tally this week. I almost started AZ's D instead but the fan owner took over. I hate when that happens.
     
    I heard RGIII saying he was going to quit all that head butting after he got concussed but I see he was only joking.
     
    Berger, everyone except butterfingers Bryant.

  22. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Someone needs to remind Harbaugh he’s not on the Farm anymore. This ain’t college ball. Play one quarterback all the time or play none at all. Jesus H. Effing Christ.
    .
    As much as I can’t stand the sorry sumbitch, Alex Smith should never leave the field unless he’s being carried off on a stretcher. Someone get that through Jimbo’s thick head.

  23. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Ray Lewis out for the year with a torn triceps and quite possibly done for his career. Now Ray can get back to doing what he does best: murdering people and getting away with it.

  24. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Morning, Dennis.

  25. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Thank you for leaving out the “good.” I’m sure that was intentional on your part. Nothing good about it. Afternoon, sir.

  26. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    This weekend proved the old adage
    that on any given Sunday any team in the NFL can beat another. The winless Browns won. THe pathetic Jets pummeled the Colts and Luck got the crap beat out of him. The Bills played the Cards tight, Their kicker Felly makes a 61 yd FG that would’ve been good from 70 yds. He then boinks a 38 yd
    chip shot off the left goal post and the Bills win.
    The Bills and Jets were only hapless against the Niners because they each have 3 wins.
    On any given Sunday.

  27. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, this was another curious fricking game where Harbaugh gave up on the run early and suffered the consequences. Throw in the QB roulette and you have a recipe for discombobulated ineptness.
    .
    In the 2 losses, Harbaugh was schooled. Let’s hope his current win streak over Carroll remains intact.

  28. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Petey Carroll coaching it up and revealing his secrets
    This from a site called 12th Man Rising
    http://tinyurl.com/8dzq2wz

  29. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve got so many 49ers on my previously undefeated fantasy team that I think I set a record for lowest points this week!

  30. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Just noticed if you are a Niner fan you have the next 3 Sundays
    with no Niner game to watch and plan around.
    No game this coming Sunday because of Thurs night
    Following week’s game @Ariz is on Monday Night
    And the following Sunday we have the bye

  31. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear49er I had planned to rewatch the game to see just how many times RJF got blown up, thanks for the actual count.
    He was on the nose for goal line rush TD and barely seemed to put up a fight.
    IMO, he’s too light.
    Seeing Ice and RJF as our PoA pair only heightens my desire to find some youthful options in the Draft next Spring.
    Granted it takes time to groom them but, is Ian Williams our only other option at this point?
    A little scary to think where we’d be if Ice goes down.
     
    RJF is looking too much like a blocking sled to me.
    I will continue to lobby for my ‘Fat Man in the Middle’ until we find the proper channel marker that can’t be moved.
    Where’s the next Michael, Carter Ted Washington guy?

  32. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    What appears to be on the horizon in April is a pretty good crop of DLmen and Safeties.
    Gotta figure Baalke has that figured out already.
    My early ‘board’ at S is, TJMcDonald and Eric Reid.
    Both should be around late 1st RD as early bets would suggest.
    But I digress…..
    Beat Pete!

  33. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs, I’m just trying to rationalize how you look so ill prepared for the highly anticipated ‘NFCC game rematch’?
    As RT says, bury it and move on.
    The next 3 matter a whole lot more.
    If we don’t take care of the Division, we’ll be on the outside looking in come Playoff time.

  34. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Broncos go in at the half down 24-0 and at the 2 minute warning they lead 35-24.
     
    Who thought that Manning deal was a bad thing?

  35. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, yeah I think so unless maybe we can get Leonard Davis to change sides.
     
    btw, where did the blitzing go. I counted two yesterday. And a single QB hit.
     
    I might watch it again, too. They usually have the coaches tape up by Tuesday night and there are a couple of plays I’d like to see the all-22 angle on.

  36. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    RJF is probably going to be really good as a 3-4 DE. To do that we will need a fat man in the middle. I’ll need to start watching some of them. The only ones I’ve seen so far are the kids from Utah and Ohio State. Unfortunately they were on a TVs I wasn’t paying much attention to, but it seemed every time I looked up they were destroying another play.

  37. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    RJF is more of a gap shooter in the middle and would be more stout on the edge, which IMO makes him more of a DE than a DT. In the 3-4 a NT and DE play with similar style but the NT does need to be more stout. For this fan, I like NTs who can push the center straight back and not be moved on double teams. I think RJF could do that on the edge, but not on the nose. Sope does that well on the nose but I fear he might be playing with a bad wheel.

  38. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Ian Williams has some talent. He could be a guy in your rotation. But I don’t think he is your future starter.
     
    The two key pieces in a 3-4 seem to me to be the NT, and the outside pass rushers at OLB. We are very strong at DE and ILB, but we could get better at NT and OLB (at least in terms of depth).
     
    Justin Smith is our best player on this team. We need to find a guy in the middle who can inherit at least the mantle of best D-lineman when Cowboy hangs them up in a few years.

  39. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Agree Berger, Ice is 325+
    I see RJF as more of DE also.
    Put the big body inside, flank him with the nimble guys.
     
    NoFear49er I don’t think Fangio really wanted to show too much?
    After we got down it looked like we were square dancing up front.
    I heard Baldinger on NFLN today singing praises of how Beatty and Boothe locked down Justin and Aldon?
    I’m trying convince myself that we just didn’t want to wear anyone out on a Week 6 game just 4 days before our 1st Division game?
     
    NYG OL isn’t as good as we made them look IMO.

  40. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    As for pass rush or lack of it if the four guys aren’t doing the job you bring 5 or 6. Somebody like Eli Manning will pick you apart anyway if he has the time to be comfortable and survey his options.
    It was noted in the NFC Championship Game how many times he was sacked and hurried and knocked down.
    Pressure creates mistakes and turnovers.
    THey have to make the rookie Russell Wilson extremely uncomfortable. Seahags will try to copy Vikes gameplan but they don’t have Percy Harvin.

  41. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    THe Niner D did have 6 TFLs to the Gnat’s 8, but their 8 came with 6 sacks included in that total. Niner TFLs happened before the 4th uqarter and most likely in the first half.

  42. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, the Giants LG and LT did do a fair job of limiting both Smiths when we were in our base D. In the nickel it looked like Baas was helping on Justin pretty often. I wouldn’t call it locking down. They were causing hurries and some tackles behind the LOS even while not getting the hit on Manning. But I can see why a NYG fan might say it.
     
    You might be right on them looking to the division games, but I don’t buy it. I think they would have done all they could to show up the Giants in front of the home crowd. At any rate, they should have if they didn’t.
     
    I never liked the way RJF played the nose spot. I didn’t care much for Sopoaga playing there either until he did it for a while. I think he does a good job there now but still doesn’t draw many double teams. And if the NT can’t do that he may as well be any other DT on the line. Sopoaga doesn’t get fooled out of position anymore and he holds his ground, keeps focus on the ball and gets off his man well. We’d probably do better to go with the nickel as our base if we had to play without Sopoaga now. The backup guys could rotate in easier in that front anyway.
     

  43. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I think the opening drive showed we had the ability to move on them NoFear49er.
    Why the heck we started the gimmicky college sub nonsense just blew my mind.
    Once we got derailed and fell behind the wheels fell off.
    Is it Roman? Harbaugh?
    He admitted the plan sucked at least.
     
    You made the observation about heading for the showers early.
    That’s sorta what I’m suggesting.
    Save energy for the Seattle game?
     
    Giants played to win, we played because we had to.
    I have no answers, just questions.
    Alex is still too slow to recognize coverages and find favorable targets too.

  44. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    All in all, we looked lost in what was to be the most important game on our schedule.
    Better to look inept in Week 6.
    4-2 ain’t too shabby afterall.

  45. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Basher!
     
    Coverages? I don’t think he could recognize the different colored jerseys beyond ten yards. He threw into multiple defenders.
     
    Harbaugh knows Alex thrives in mostly safe throws and dump offs with an ocassional well-practiced deep seam or sideline route mixed in. He also knows that isn’t going to win games against teams that are putting up some points on our defense.
     
    I think he and Roman figured, concerning Alex and if he’s ready to reach the next level, if not now, when?
     
    The Kaep plays came in at the most awkward times in the game flow I could imagine. And they didn’t work. Maybe the idea was getting Alex off the field would let him settle down and Kaep would have finished the series if the plays had clicked. I don’t know. It was all pretty baffling.
     
    I agree the record is fine. Playing like crap in week six at home is a bit more than slightly troubling. Had we traveled to your AO to lay such a big egg just writing it off as a bad road game would be much easier.

  46. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve got the Basher tag for sure.
    Can’t live it down I guess?
    IMO, Kaep is going to work those deep middle routes that Alex has trouble with.
    Right now Harbaugh is playing to his Pistol strengths with run options.
    I’m looking forward to him doing some play action stuff and pulling the trigger.
    Kaep throws a sweet ball.
    Alex throws quails too often.
    When he needs to put something on a throw it tends to sail.
     
    Seems obvious that they want Kaep to get his playtime dues in so they’re force feeding him.

  47. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    There was an endzone shot of the 2nd pick(?), to the right side with Crabtree as the target I believe.
    NYG had half their Defense in the area smothering Crabs and Vernon.
    Look to the left sideline, single coverage on somebody I couldn’t ID.
    We just stunk it up in every direction.
    Alex drives me insane at times.
    Hot and cold.

  48. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I think Alex looked the Safety right into to play.
    Sorry Berger, couldn’t resist.

  49. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I think Alex looked the Safety right into the play.
    Sorry Berger, couldn’t resist.

  50. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Tried to correct the typo, apologize for the double post.

  51. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I think it is the second INT you’re referring to. It was intended for Manningham. It was Williams that was going deep just coming into frame on the left. Crabtree was left of him and short of the sticks. Alex had turned his back to that side of the field at the snap.
     
    A pump fake or two could have worked wonders against that defense.

  52. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I did not see Aex leading any safeties to a spot, those were just poor decisions. You are going to see more of those if the coaching scheme don’t start getting the receivers open more often. It was like the Giants knew what was coming on most play calls, even the Kaep plays. I think at this point the play calling needs a better choice of formations and a simplified game plan with better execution.

  53. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t really remember too well, but it seems we opened the game with a lot of spread formations and moved the ball well, even though we only got 3 points off of those drives. We then went to more Sardine Can offense as the game went on, only to go back to the spread when we got down by two scores. Can somebody who is watching the game again comment about this, as I don’t really remember it well.

  54. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Iggles just fired their DC Juan Castillo.
    .
    Yeah, those first 2 drives, they ran and passed well. Until the Cappy shit. 9 runs and 13 passes on those drives. Can’t remember the formations, but we used a lot of shotgun. The next 5-6 drives were killed by ints, penalties, or Cappy.
    .
    Yeah, I’ll say it again, Smith had driven the team 60 yards in 10 plays, and they bring in Cappy to hand off on 3rd and 5? I don’t get it at all. The other one that was ridiculous was after Smith hit Moss on the 55 yard bomb, Cappy comes in and takes the 11 yard sack. Smith could have at least audibled out of the naked bootleg, or whatever that play was supposed to be. The Giants were all over that play.
    .
    Overlooking this game? That’s a tough nut to swallow. I know it isn’t a division game, but really. You’d want to give a better showing than this. but when it got away? Who knows?
    .
    The point being, Harbaugh’s tendencies are beginning to be exploited by some of these defenses. He’s got to lay off the gimmicky shit.

  55. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    For all intents and purposes Holmgren was replaced today by Joe Banner who’s now in charge.
    Holmgren is just a lame duck earning a salary in Cleveland with no authority.
    There was a time when some people
    felt Holmgren was the solution looking to capture some Bill Walsh mojo for the Niners.
    Parcells couldn’t do it after leaving the Gnats with the Pats, Jest, Cowgurls and Fins.
    Holmgren was a big loser in Cleveland with a 10-28 record as the guy in charge and off to a 1-5 start this year.

  56. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    We’ll be seeing John Skelton if he survives the game against the Vikes as the Card QB. Kolb is out with a sprained sternoclavicular joint which menas he has several detached ribs.
    The Cards had won 8 staright at home until the Bills beat them in OT. That’s the same Bill team we crushed and shutout a week earlier.

  57. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Maiocco’s thoughts along with Mindi Bach

    http://tinyurl.com/95ot3zt

  58. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I think the worry now is Seattle.

  59. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Seattle is far from consistent. They could come in and do a credible Jets imitation, or then again, they could kick our asses up around our ears if we aren’t ready. I *hope* we are ready.
     
    Like I’ve said, go 3-0 the next three weeks and all this hullabaloo will die down until we play the Saints or even the Pats.
     
    But go 2-1, and the rumbling will continue… Worse than that, and the 49er blogosphere will go critical mass.

  60. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    It’s not a big deal that we lost a game. We lost while looking like a team that didn’t belong in the game.
     
    The blogosphere grumbles whenever its collective stupidity shows and all the wannabe pundits scramble to spin their takes.

  61. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Seattle’s defense is for real. Their offense may not be so good without their own refs.

  62. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, no one is grumbling for Holmgren. The only ones were Spitty and Flying V. And they were doing that to egg you on. Ancient history. The Cards? Can’t worry about them until Friday.
    .
    The concern for me is what the hell kind of team are we? Are we now going to pass more? Are we moving towards Cappy? Will we go back to Gore more? Is Alex thr QB?
    .
    The whole Giants game fiasco really seemed like a bad dream. Like Harbaugh wanted to throw this one, or something.
    .
    There’s no rational explanation for how he pulled Smith out of the huddle on certain plays.

  63. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    In the 4th when the game was over they should’ve pulled the defensive starters.
    T Brown and Goldson played all but one snap. Brock didn’t play and Spilman and McBath only on ST.
    J Smith and McDonald played all but 3 snaps. Dobbs and Tukuafu didn’t play except on ST and blocking.
    Need to sub when you’re being killed just to prevent injury and give your subs some experience and reps.
    They substitute freely on offense
    and should integrate some players in on D. I want to see what Haggans has left and Grant and Gooden didn’t get any playing time.

  64. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Beating Seattle is a big deal. Losing to them at home would be a crushing blow to take. It will put some big questions up there about the quality of the team, andit brings into question if they really are built for the long haul. And going to AZ after 2 tough home losses would be a tough nut to crack, no matter how bad AZ can look. They ALWAYS get up for the Niners.
    .
    This is definitely crunch time in Ninerland.

  65. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Thanks NoFear49er, I have not replayed the game yet.
    But yes, Alex never looked to his left, something that he routinely does.
    I just hope he picks up the pace with his progressions and looks at the entire field.
    We’ve added several key weapons to help in that regard yet he still locks onto his primary and checkdowns.
    Hope they took the NYG game to heart and use it as it as motivation.

  66. BergerNo Gravatar says:

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  67. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I have no idea how that last post got onto the blog. My keyboard was going crazy, I hit it and it posted what it went nuts about. Bizarre.

  68. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- Alex does not lock onto primary receivers. You are seeing things that don’t exist. You can pick a few plays every game because some plays are designed that way, but he does not have a problem with locking onto receivers. If that is what you see you are being delusional.

  69. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    There was a TV shot in the Giants game where Smith dropped back to pass, turned and the camera clearly showed his eyes scanning left, center, right very quickly. He didn’t move his head, so maybe that’s why NJ thinks he’s locking on.

  70. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, Skeebers, et al, on the play NJ49er is interested in, we had three receivers on the left after Williams motions over to the wide slot on that side. Manningham is the flanker and Gore flares out to the right flat.
     
    The Giants are in man coverage with a single high safety.
     
    As soon as Alex gets the snap he turns to face the right sideline eliminating anything going to the left. Even before Manningham completes his release past the corner the safety is closing on Manningham’s area because both Gore and Manningham, the only possible targets, are in that area putting him in great position to make the play on Alex’s bad throw.
     
    Alex does this many, many times in every game. The NYGs knew it and exploited it.

  71. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger I watch every game.
    I don’t always have benefit of proper TV angles but, he does have a habit of staring down his targets.
    This particular play was just an example I was able to use because it was very clearly shown from the endzone behind him.
     
    You could see Rolle running to the area.
    Had Alex extended that play just a second longer, and looked left, there was a good chance that we would’ve beat Rolle on the deeper left seam.
    Problem there is, Alex fails more often on the deeper throws.
    Defenses squat on intermediate routes constantly.
     
    He’s got to improve in this area.
    It might also explain why Kaep is seeing as much time as he is.
    Kaep can stick those throws more easily.

  72. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    As we’ve been debating here for the last few days, Alex has to learn to take apart a Defense, not just run an Offense.

  73. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2017 Schedule
Sept. 10: vs Carolina: L 3-23
Sept. 17: at Seattle: 9-12
Sept. 21: vs. L.A. Rams: L 39-41
Oct. 1: at Arizona: L 15-18
Oct. 8: at Indianapolis: L 23-26
Oct. 15: at Washington: L 24-26
Oct. 22: vs. Dallas: L 10-40
Oct. 29: at Philadelphia: L 10-33
Nov. 5: vs. Arizona: L 10-20
Nov. 12: vs. N.Y. Giants: W 31-21
Week 11 — Bye
Nov. 26: vs. Seattle, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 3: at Chicago, 10 a.m.
Dec. 10: at Houston, 10 a.m.
Dec. 17: vs. Tennessee, 1:25 p.m.
Dec. 24: vs. Jacksonville, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 31: at L.A. Rams, 1:25 p.m.
 
2017 Draft Class
1. DE Solomon Thomas
1. ILB Reuben Foster
3. CB Ahkello Witherspoon
3. QB C.J. Beathard
4. RB Joe Williams
5. TE George Kittle
5. WR Trent Taylor
6. DT D.J. Jones
6. LB Pita Taumoepenu
7. CB Adrian Colbert
 
2017 Prognostications
Bullit: 5-11
Chuck: 9-7
Grumpy: 4-12
Mr Fletch: 5-11
NJ49er: 6-10
Rob: 9-7
RTFirefly: 5-11
Skeebers: 6-10
Winder: 4-12

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