It’s A Boy!

As suggested Thursday morning, the 49ers once again selected “Who?!” with their first round pick. If this version of Who works as well as the previous Who model, the team will have the second coming of Nobody.

I’m ransacking through whatever drawers I can get open in my brain this morning, trying to remember any mega-star small, quick receiver the team has ever had, and I’m coming up empty. If I add an inch or two to A. J. Jenkins height and add ten pounds, however, I’ve got myself a faster version of Jerry Rice.

Perhaps that comparison would be overly optimistic.

Anyway, the number one offseason need to upgrade the wide receiver corps now seems completed. The team has added Jenkins, Randy Moss, and Mario Manningham to the one man band of Michael Crabtree that contributed almost nothing during the 2011 playoffs.

Some people are extremely displeased with this pick, but who cares what Del Mar thinks? Apparently, the Rams were not happy, either, because they were set to take Jenkins with their first pick in Round Two.

If this Trent Baalke trend continues, in 2013 fans will actually groan if he picks a known commodity.

The big losers on Day One of the draft were the Bay Area members of the Colby Fleener fan club. The entire league passed on him, including his old coach, and it’s now expected that the Colts will draft him in Round Two and reunite him with Andrew Luck. If the Colts do not select him, though, he could experience some serious free fall.

Up next on Day Two of the 2012 Draft, the Niners will select “What” and “I Don’t Know” with their second and third round picks.

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  1. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Speaking of Jerry Rice, he’s already reached out to Jenkins and offered to take him to “the hill.”

  2. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Bummer day for these six guys who flew to N.Y. to get drafted in Round 1 and sat on their stools all day for nothing:
     
    Stanford tight end Coby Fleener, Georgia tackle Cordy Glenn, Georgia Tech receiver Stephen Hill, LSU receiver Rueben Randle, Penn State defensive tackle Devon Still, and Alabama linebacker Courtney Upshaw.

  3. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    Hey guys…well when i heard who the niners drafted i admit i went Who?
    But check out what Sando wrote:
    The St. Louis Rams enter the second round of the 2012 NFL draft with the 33rd, 39th and 45th overall choices.

    They’re in prime position to help themselves at wide receiver, in other words.

    But they won’t be upgrading with a certain receiver from the University of Illinois. That is because the San Francisco 49ers snapped up A.J. Jenkins with the 30th overall choice.

    A.J. who? Well, turns out personnel people around the league, and specifically in St. Louis, knew plenty about Jenkins.

    Jim Thomas of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch says the Rams had Jenkins ranked nearly as high as Oklahoma State receiver Justin Blackmon, who went to Jacksonville with the fifth overall choice. He says the Rams “almost certainly” have to take a receiver with the first pick of the second round. Thomas: “League sources told the Post-Dispatch on Thursday afternoon that the Rams liked Jenkins so much that his grade wasn’t much different than the one given Blackmon by the team’s personnel department.” Noted: That Thomas’ sources passed along that information in the afternoon is noteworthy. At that point, the Rams presumably would have wanted to explain why they felt OK failing to land Blackmon. They would not have known Jenkins would land in San Francisco. This lends credence to the idea St. Louis liked Jenkins quite a bit. The Rams hold the first pick of the second round, so they’ll have first crack at the next receiver, should they choose to target that position.

  4. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Tony- Thanks for the info.

  5. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    So far the Lambs again haven’t added any help on offense for Bradford by drafting a DT in Brockers. They have 3 #2s so expect them to go heavy on skill players.
    The Seahags have only Earl Thomas to show as a decent 1st rounder uner Carroll. James Carpenter was
    puzzle pick last year as was Bruce Irvin. Carroll was looking to find another Aldon Smith but he might have drafted Everette Brown 2.0.

  6. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve watched a couple more clips. AJ has an uncanny way of getting open, even when everybody knows he is the one they are going to.

  7. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    “But who cares what Del Mar thinks?”
     
    My therapist for one, that’s who. And after the displeasure, indignation and overall irritation brought on to me by the 49ers selecting A.J. Jenkins, she’s going to hear about it.

  8. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Bless her weary soul.

  9. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bruce Irvin is more of speed rusher. I’d compare him to Dumerville and the Broncos 1st pick last year. I can’t remember his name. He was defensive ROY.

  10. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    Von Miller and Irvin is no Von Miller. Keep telling you Everett Brown.

  11. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Pipe dream is they move up to select Fleener.
    Round 2 possibilities Silatolu,
    Derrick Wolfe DT, Trumaine Johnson CB,Brandon Boykin CB,
    Lamar Miller RB, Kelechi Osemele OG.
    Rd 3 pick any rd 2 guys that fall
    plus Jared Crick, Chase Minnifield CB, Antonio Allen S,
    Chris Polk RB, Benard Pierce RB

  12. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- I’m talking style of play. Everette Brown’s style is to make contact to create space and attack in those lanes. Dumerville and Miller are speed rushers like Irvin. I am not trying compare results.

  13. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t think they go Fleener now. Turbin or O line is what I see.

  14. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Rams likely get Stephen Hill. They haven’t gotten anything for Bradford.

  15. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Bad new for Vernon Davis and family. Very sad because he was supposedly more talented than his two older brothers who are in the NFL. If he did he just pissed his life away.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/27/brother-of-vernon-vontae-davis-arrested-suspected-of-murder/

  16. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If you’re Holmgren and Shurmur why would you lie to your QB?
    Latest word is Browns might trade McCoy to the Packers after assuring him they wouldn’t take a QB in the first rd. The article brings up a good point that how can the Brown’s players trust their GM/Coach?

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/27/report-browns-told-mccoy-they-wouldnt-take-quarterback-in-round-one/

  17. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Just for grins it could pay to be Mr Irrelevant of the 2012
    NFL Draft depending on your taste.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDoXWDLwTO8

  18. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Parker Brothers just released a new version of their board game Clue. Move over Professor Plum and Mr. Green, we have a new suspect.
     
    It was Michael Davis in D.C. with a hammer.

  19. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I am leaning towards Crick tonight. Get the next Justin Smith and keep protecting your playmaker ILBs. You never have enough good DLs. Wait for 3 and 4 for a S and a C-G.

  20. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    FYI The 2nd rd starts at 4pm PT
    in case you didn’t know.
    Tomorrow 4th rd starts 9am PT

  21. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Grump, I like your thinking with Crick. That Cornhusker is cut from the Justin Smith cloth so much it’s a little scary. I also wouldn’t be averse to see the club either package a pick or two tonight and/or tomorrow to move up. I’d rather they come home with 4 or 5 higher rated players that could help make an immediate impact than the full complement of 7.

  22. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    If we have 6th or 7th round picks, it is going to be VERY hard for them to make the 53, IMHO, Dennis. So yeah, I’d be open to moving late picks for position this year or picks next year.
     
    Crick’s only minus is he was hurt all year and is still recovering. I’m not sure how productive he’ll be this year – he’d be on the 53, but likely inactive until he heals. Still, the future need to account for Justin inevitably slowing down makes him, I think, a guy you have to consider if he makes it to 61.

  23. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Fleener going to the Colts to catch more passes from Luck.
    I hope it works out for the both of ’em.

  24. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Wow. JJ goes to StL. Did they draft a WR earlier?

  25. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Ahhh, they got Quick. Rams are building a defense.

  26. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I hope we torch that bastard-child making JJ twice a yr when we play the Rams. Just looking at him pisses me off.

  27. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    “Janoris Jenkins is the best cover corner in the draft, no contest. But he can’t find the drug store.”
    – Some scout I heard last week whose name passed me by

  28. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Seattle makes another “reach” at ILB. Pete Carroll and Mike Holmgren must shop at the same wacky tobacky smoke shop. WTF are they smoking?

  29. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Did you guys see Michael Westbrook make that pick for the Eagles? I wonder if he’s learned our intricate blocking and pass pro schemes that kept him on our sideline? Goddamn Sing and Raye bullshit.

  30. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Good to see Barry Sanders. Dude was one of the best ever.

  31. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Konz is gone. Another G/C who looked good.

  32. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    They’re happy in the draft room about something. Guess we’ll see soon.

  33. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I LIKE this pk of LaMichael James. Quack. Quack.

  34. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Huh. Small and faast.

  35. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Stop the presses. Skippy likes a pick.

  36. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    As a Stanford fan who watches a shitload of Pac 10, sorry, Pac 12 games, this kid is a game breaker. Three straight yrs of 1,500+ yds. He’s great in open space. He doesn’t possess the size to be another workhorse like Frank, but the game has changed. Giving the RB 25+ carries/gm is more antiquated than Dino the dinosaur. You guys are going to love this kid’s moves. Electric.

  37. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I think this is the anti-McCloughan draft so far. He likes big slow, we just got a lot quicker on offense.
     
    We got probably the quickest/fastest combo receiver, with the best hands, and we got the quickest/fastest RB. James is an incredible game breaker. We just need to keep him from being nicked up.
     
    Speaking of being hurt. Crick is always hurt. Stay away unless you want the next Jay Moore.

  38. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NT Chapman from Alabama tops my list now. The other guy is Billy Winn. He is a better version of Crick. Maybe not as strong, but a bigger motor, quicker, and stays on the field. There is no Justin Smith in this draft in any round. Not even close.

  39. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Think Anthony Dixon makes the team? I kinda doubt it with James on board.

  40. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    This is not a good year for impact DL. The one I like the most is Jones, who went to the Patriots.
     
    This draft does have a lot of rotational DL. Cox might have chance. Poe might too if he can develop a little more. He’s athletic but he doesn’t make many plays.
     
    The best thing this draft has for impact DL is a few pass rushers. It sucks for star interior linemen. Chapman’s biggest problem is he is only 310 lbs, but he can really play the NT position. He was the only NT who impressed me this year in college. He did anchor the best defense in the land this last year.

  41. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Bergs, I thought Crick was only hurt in 2011? Does he have a history beyond that? That would be too bad, he reminds me a lot of Justin in size and style of play.

  42. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Dixon and Brandon are fighting for a *maybe* spot. Odds are better than 50-50 we only carry Gore, Hunter, LaMichael James and ST Rocky.

  43. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve tried to watch Crick many times the last three years. He was almost always hurt and not playing. The couple times I did get to see him was with Suh, and he kicked butt. But of with Suh you will not get much attention. I saw him play without Suh and he wasn’t dynamic at all. When you factor in his injuries, I don’t care for him.

  44. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    For this pick, I’m guessing Winn, Chapmann, Minnefield or Boykin.

  45. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    We just drafted two game breakers. One each at WR and RB. Hmmm? We’re missing something. How are we gonna get these guys the ball?
     
    Did we sign Peyton Manning yet?

  46. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    And just when I thought Seattle couldn’t make an even shitter pick in the 3rd rd after their first two debacle choices…Pete Carroll & Co. surprises once again. They drafted that midget QB from Wisconsin.
     
    Dilemma? I have Pete Carroll, Mike Holmgren, a gun and only one bullet. What to do? I think I’d have to shoot myself just so I wouldn’t have to endure any more of their idiotic moves.

  47. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Baalke is calling somebody.

  48. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    No Dennis, damn it. BUT: AS, JJ, CK, ST. Four men enter, one man plays. Thunderdome, baby. And if one of these four does not cut it, we’ll revisit QB in the next draft. Baalke and Harbaugh are NOT screwing around. They don’t just WANT winners, they are BUILDING one.

  49. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Traded out to the Colts…

  50. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    We get the second pick tomorrow morning in the 4th and a fifth next year.

  51. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Draft resumes tomorrow at 9AM PDT. We should be picking right at 9:05. I reserved a table at 9:06 to resume my bitching and moaning. 😀

  52. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh on James: “Seen him play up close… and lost games to his team due in large part to his efforts.”

  53. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Delanie Walker loves this draft more than anybody.

  54. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Making that trade with the Colts gives the Niners a chance to take a deep breath and think their first 4th rd pick through.

    Chapman, Crick, Boykin, Miller,Turbin and Ta’amu available.

    The additions of Jenkins and James creates competition for Ginn and might make him expendable. They then still might draft Frank’s eventual replacement
    in Miller or Turbin which would be bad news for Dixon.

    My gut says this pick will be a DL.Chapman couldn’t participate in the combine because of his torn ACL.
    I’d be happy with either Chapman or Crick

  55. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    About Crick he was only hurt during his Senior year, Here is the Fox scouting report

    “Crick decided to return to Nebraska rather than join last year’s draft, but his senior season didn’t go as planned. He sprained a knee in spring practice and had several injuries during the season until he was sidelined for good in October with a torn pectoral muscle. He clearly wasn’t in top form in the five games he did play, managing only one sack and 22 total tackles. After a brilliant sophomore season playing alongside Ndamukong Suh, Crick proved he could maintain that production even with his star teammate in the NFL. Crick – a two-time all-conference selection – matched his 2009 total with a team-high 9 1/2 sacks and 17 tackles for loss in 14 games in 2010. Not viewed as a pure pass rusher due to his mediocre foot speed, Crick fits best as an end in a 3-4 scheme. He is very skilled at extending and keeping blockers away due to excellent technique and considerable strength. While not blessed with great speed, Crick is a very good closer once he gets in the backfield and his strong upper body makes it difficult for runners to elude his grasp. Although the pectoral injury prevented him from participating in the bench press at the NFL combine, Crick played 36 games at Nebraska so durability isn’t an issue. A likely top 10 pick this year until his injury-riddled senior season, Crick could still be a first-round selection and will be off the board no later than the middle of the second round”

  56. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- Something is wrong with this guys assessment. I tried to watch him 3 times as a Junior and he only played once.

  57. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I got this fdrom PFT this morning:
     
    7. Alabama defensive tackle Josh Chapman — Chapman would have been a second-day pick if not for postseason ACL surgery. The operation repaired Chapman’s anterior cruciate ligament in addition to left meniscus after he played the final eight games of his senior season through the injury. And he was still the best run-stopping nose in the nation.

  58. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Alameda Ta’amu was not very good when I watched him play. He didn’t penetrate and he didn’t control anything. That is the only two things to watch for in a NT. Chapman didn’t penetrate but he controlled everything in his path.

  59. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Another trade down and another pick for next year, a 6th rounder.

  60. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Saw the trade down, where do you get the info on next year’s 6th Skeebs?

  61. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Twitter guys reported it (Branch, Barrows, & 49ers).

  62. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Baalke is on the phone again.

  63. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Nice trade. Gave Miami our pick for another 6th this year and a 3rd next year.

  64. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Nice. Twitter don’t do overseas me thinks

  65. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    What did they get for trading 106 to Carolina? This is getting annoying because they’re getting later round picks

  66. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    i think Skeebs ment trade to Carolina for their 6th and next years 3rd ..not Miami…Miami was the previous trade

  67. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs sez 6th rounder this year and a 3rd next year @ 9:27

  68. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah tony correct

  69. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    We currently hold two 3rds, two 5ths, two 6ths and two 7ths next year. Maneuvering room for Draft Day 2013.

  70. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Oops. Phil’s palm tree threw me off my game.

  71. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I have a problem with the last trade then. They already had their 3 and traded it for an early 4. They take that 4 and move further back and then trade
    for a 3 next year which depends on Panther’s success. They have extra pair of 6 round picks to show for it and have to wait one year to make a third round pick. Baalke is starting to be too clever and these 6th round picks most likely will be cuts from the team with maybe a 25% chance of making the team.

  72. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    With Miami we swapped 4th That we traded to Carolina) and a 6th this year and a 6th next year….i think…geeezz im loosing trake myself…..i think we currently have half of next years selection…

  73. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Bergs, if Crick played 36 games, even missing most of his Senior Year, maybe you were just incredibly unlucky? I had never heard of any other serious injury before the pec thing.

  74. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Bullitt, those 5s and 6s can also be used to move up a few notches in a round and get the guy they want.

  75. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    We just traded our original 4th rounder for a 2nd…3rd, and 2 4ths…..a partridge in a pear tree…..nawww just kidding …i think

  76. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    This Saturday draft SUCKS Donkey Kong. We need picks NOW. Not next year. Team is poised to win NOW. Picks later in the draft draft and especially not year won’t help the team NOW. We were 13-3 last year.
     
    Like I said earlier: Ballke’s doing his best to ensure we become the 7/8 team to lose the NFC Championship and not make the playoffs the next year. Hello 8-8.

  77. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy- I have no problem taking Crick now. I’d rather have Chapman, but the end of the 4th is a good place to start takng some chances.

  78. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Net result of our 3 trades: for our #92 we got 5 picks in return: two 6th rounders plus 3rd/5th/6th rounders in 2013.

  79. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    yea…even if we win the Super Bowl next year..they can package 15 or so picks and still get the top pick in the draft 🙂

  80. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Let’s see, I haven’t looked anything up so I might be proven wrong, but if Crick is a Senior and has played in 36 games, and if he played in 24 his first two years, that leaves only 12 for his last two years. Not so good.

  81. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I will say this however: Seattle and the Rams are doing their best at this years’ draft choices to ensure they finish no better than 8-8 either. Let’s hope we win the tie breaker.

  82. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Our defense is good but getting old. They will be one year older next year. I thnk the addtl 3rd and 5th for next year is a good thing. I like what we are doing. Now go get Chapman.

  83. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Weird… this site shows Crick only playing in three as a Frosh, then not missing a game until 2011.

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/240571/year/2010/jared-crick

  84. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    we just traded up

  85. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Now we’ve traded up and are on the clock.

  86. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niners on clock making trade with Lions

  87. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Baalke just went Looney

  88. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Wake Forest guard Joe Looney.

  89. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    “Net result of our 3 trades: for our #92 we got 5 picks in return:”
     
    An extra 6th rounder this year, and four guys who won’t even get drafted next year after the Mayans pay us a visit on 12/21.
     
    Now we just traded up and took some guy named “Looney.” Cue the theme music…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvx9SlYFpiw&feature=relmfu

  90. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Nice name for a lineman. Hope he lives up to it.

  91. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    What can I say, but after this trade…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH7qq7OjJO8&feature=related

  92. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    From now until we die, Grumpy and Crick are tied to the hip. Crick is Grumpy’s guy, he’ll fight you to the death about this guy. I hope he proves to be good so Grumpy can be happy. We won’t get him until the 5th if we get him. This is where he should be going. Late 4th or 5th.
     
    Grumpy, Ive watched this guy and wasn’t impressed. I tried to watch him many times and he didn’t even play. What more do want. Statistics are for people who don’t watch.

  93. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    What did we give up for the Looney pick?

  94. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Our remaining 4th and one of our 6ths.

  95. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Chapman reminds meof Kevan Fagan. he is dropping because of an ACL injury. He might not play his first year but he will be a good contributor. We also got McDonald as a late 3rd because he had a bad knee. If you can be patient you are rewarded sometimes.
     
    And then there is this Mayan issue!

  96. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Crick just went to Houston,

  97. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Vikes just drafted Rikki Ellison’s son from U$C
    Rhett Ellison. WE still have a shot at WEndell Tyler’s kid who’s an idiot.

  98. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy is now a Texans fan!

  99. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Matt Leinart comes to the Bay Area, to be Palmer’s backup with da Raiduhs.

  100. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs- I lost a post to nowhere. I think it is flowing down a Crick.

  101. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ will be disappointed. Raiduhs just took his guy Miles Burriss.
    Making all these trades cost us shots at Turbin and Burriss and Crick.

  102. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Fetched it back, Berg. 10:27am. Don’t know why it went to spam.

  103. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Apparently, Looney was trained in WCO by Jeremy Newberry.

  104. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs

    When a post disappears I just assume you play bloglord and censored it into oblivion,

  105. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Not always. Sometimes, the logic of the spam trapper is illogical.

  106. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I was looking forward to the 4th round but all these trades have made me lose interest and it’s boring watching other teams add players you’d like to their roster. I just can’t get excited over draft choices later than the 4th rd and maybe even the 3rd rd,
    Watching this on TV is even tougher because they don’t give you info like they should about trades. For instance Mayock just went on a 2 min lecture about Coty Sensibaugh and how he played similar ro him and barely mentioned the Niner’s Looney pick

  107. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    Colts just tokk Chapman with first pick rd 5

  108. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Chapman is a Colt. Looks like I’ll be a Colts fan! When do the Colts play the Texans? Mark it on your calender Mr Grumpy!

  109. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Just noticed it’s rd 5 and Chris Polk is still available

  110. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Another 28 picks and Niners will be on the clock!!!

  111. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t know who I want now. I’m going to work on the lawn and check back later. At least Grumpy and I have a new rivalry to have some fun with. We can call it the injury bowl. His injured guy vs my injured guy!

  112. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Is Minifield still available?

  113. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Hoping for Minnifield or Billy Winn or Antonio Allen the S from South Carolina
    Sleepers Acho(LB) from Texas and Jeff Adams(OL) from Columbia.

    Dennard CB Nebraska and leonard Johnson CB Iowa St as well as Polk are still available

  114. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Obviously I am an NFL draft junkie. I’m alreasdy back. I just put the water on and pondered, I wonder what’s going on with the draft?

  115. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    You got back just in time
    20 picks until it’s our turn!

  116. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Thanks Bullit. I forgot about Winn. I like him Minnifield and Acho from your list. I don’t know who Adams is.

  117. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Took the LB from ND Darius Fleming

    Here is profile of Jeff Adams

    http://cache.profootballweekly.com/prospects/player/jeff-adams-76/

  118. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Darius Fleming scouting report from NFL.com Sounds like he could give Aldon a spell on a few plays this years to help keep him fresh since he’s projected now to start and play every down.
     
    Overview

    Fleming has good size for a linebacker and can bend and move well for his build. He was a starter at Notre Dame for more than two years and the key part of a very strong linebacker group. He is a good lateral mover and aggressive both in pursuit and once he gets to the ball. Fleming can be a liability in coverage, but he has value in a 3-4 defense as an outside linebacker who purely rushes the passer and sets the edge.
    Analysis
    Strengths
    Fleming is a superb rusher who has a strong burst off the line to get into a tackle, bend his knees and dip around his opponent. He excels at setting the edge and keeping plays inside of him. He is natural in his a lateral movements and can pursue plays to the outside. He has fluid hips that he relies on to recover and run down plays.
    Weaknesses
    Fleming has little value as a dropping pass defender and often looks lost when forced to cover. He is a scheme player and would struggle if forced to cover tight ends in space in a 4-3 scheme. He also struggles when defending inside runs and is better when just setting the edge to keep the play inside.

  119. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    For some reason the first thing that came to mind when we drafted Fleming was James Bond, and then of course, Halle Berry. Is she a Northern Woman?

  120. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Actually, I like this pick, even if he is from Univ of Northern Women.

  121. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    Baalke and Harbaugh are totalling ignoring our suggestions. THat’s why we don’t make a living scouting football,
    We’d all starve.

  122. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    Whats really kind of funny….of all these draft picks….i cant recall any being mentioned here or on any other ‘mock’ drafts anywhere else either…shows what a waste of time it is projecting picks ….except maybe the first few picks to open the draft

  123. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    What it shows is drinking beer is as productive as trying to project your team’s picks. I waste time double by doing both!

  124. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    I was watching some tape of that Slowey kid….geee… i like him ….nasty sob…half the plays he’s pancaking guys…almost always has his man on the ground…real smash mouth.. on one play he’s 30 yards down field a just killed a guy…..he’s gonna fun to watch..

  125. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I read almost every draft guide and have seen dozens of mock drafts, Befre today I didn’t know Darius Fleming existed or that he was a LB from ND. Now I do.

  126. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    We should have drafted DE/Fugger from Vanderbuilt. That way if he plays well when it is muddy we could all say “look at that mudder Fugger go” and not get our posts deleted!

  127. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Nice Bergs

  128. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The song they are using in the draft this week-end is from Gary Clark Jr.. He is an unknown blues guitarist. But he is not unknown here. I have posted the same song ESPN is using to promote the NFL draft right here on this blog for you fortunate people. Here it is again:
     
    http://youtu.be/x_ZeDn-hHGE

  129. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    Last pick…Cam Johnson OLB….Mayock had him in his top 100….

  130. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    According to Bleacher Report Niners just signed Chris Owusu.
    Kellen Moore signs with Lions and Chris Polk with Eagles.
    Burfict signs with Bengals

  131. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chase Minnifield wasn’t drafted
    and is a Free Agent. Some had him as a sure 2nd or 3rd round pick.

  132. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Like the look of that Looney G. He’s got a first round fro someone said:
    .
    http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2012/04/49ers-trade-up-to-take-wake-forest-g-joe-looney.html

  133. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Not sure why Johnson fell so far, but he’s worth a flier in the 7th. Owusu is a good candidate for the Developmental Squad. Then challenge for a spot on the 53 next year when Moss finishes his one and done. Same with Cam Johnson. Robinson seems like a decent pick for the 6th round. Another body at safety behind Spillman.
     
    On the whole, I’m guardedly optimistic. And ready for TC to start!

  134. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Based on the return abilities of the first two picks Ginn might not be a lock and things look bleaker for Dixon and K Williams.
    KW might just be better off with another team because I cannot put it out of my mind his two miscues and I just can’t see him returning kicks in a playing it safe mentality. Sort of like a pitcher scared to throw a strike.
    New team and he can make a new start and the fans will give him a break.

  135. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Per Matt Barrows here are more free agents signing with Niners

    “Here are some other names, according to Tweets from the athletes:

    Brian Tymes, WR, FAMU
    Nathan Palmer, WR, NIU
    Al Netter, OG, Northwestern
    Joe Holland, OLB, Purdue
    Garrett Celek, TE, Michigan State
    Michael Thomas, S, Stanford
    Chris Owusu, WR, Stanford
    Matt Masifilo, DT, Stanford
    Jewel Hampton, RB, Southern Illinois
    Patrick Butrym, DL, Wisconsin
    Georgio Tavecchio, K, Cal
    Michael Thomas, S, Stanford”

    Lot of local guys

  136. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy- Are you ready for the challenge that lies ahead? You’ve got Crick/Houston and I’ve got Chapman/Indy. You’ve got me this year, but Chapman is a superior athlete, IMO. I lay the challenge for you sir! If one plays and the other doesn’t, including injuries, that person wins. If they both play we go by who starts. If they both play we go by who wins. If you are in we will need to exchange email addresses if we play for anything more than bragging rights. I would play for as little as bragging rights, but if you want more we can negotiate.

  137. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Did you guys hear that Delman Young, a black baseball player got arrested for hate crimes? Let the guy go. The law was intended for lawyers to make money on people disparaging black people. A black guy disparaging Jews is not why they wrote this law.
     
    Well, I guess where there is money there is a lawyer creating derision. I guess I understand. That doesan’t mean I agree.

  138. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    CB Chase Minnifield Redskins
    RB Chris Polk Eagles
    CB Leonard Johnson to TB Bucs
    DE/OLB Kourtnei Brown,Clemson 49ers

  139. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit I lost Miles and Danny Coale.
    Haven’t seen where my S Sleeper Sean Richardson went however?
    I can say that I spoke highly of OLB Cam Johnson over here at this end. I work with a guy who’s got a family member playing at UVA.
    I considered him on my long list, along with Chase Minnifield but, didn’t keep them on my short list.
     
    I never saw shorter WR/RB coming with Picks 1 & 2.
    Can’t argue the speed factor however.
    Defenses can’t tackle what they can’t catch.
    Now….If Alex and Jenkins can connect on the Slant Route…..

  140. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I can’t wait to throw Alex in NJ’s and Del’s face when we see how good he is. It will happen. You know we will be talking about it. The anti Alex’s need to proclaim. You will be shown that you need to stop telling us how much you know. NJ, Del, Spitblood, Grumpy and Nofear head this list. Barley needs to declare one way or the other. I think he is anti, he is defdinitewly a waffler. Declare Barley, Tony and etal. Notice I didn’t ask for Rob’s opinion, he waffles more than Al Gore.

  141. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Alex is the QB we need going forward. Vote yes or no. Cowards please ignore this post. I am especially looking forwrd to NJs answer. Remember, yes or no.

  142. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Remember, the anwser is yes or no.

  143. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    For me the answer is yes.

  144. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    What say you NJ?

  145. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Guess what NJ, Alex is a good QB. Can you understand that.
     
    Oh wait, let us have one of your I’m not taking a stance statements. Do you have a brain?Declare. Is Alex our QB or not? The answer is yes or no. What is your opinion, yes or no.

  146. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Because I have a brain, I also have an opinion.
    Simple answer?
    Yes Berger.
    Honest answer? We’ll see.
    Yes. He’s a good QB. He’s durable, smart and humble.
    He’s the best we got right now.
    If he learns to anticipate routes and, read a defender and, put the ball into catchable windows, he’ll be a money WCO QB.
     
    He’s still too slow to anticipate and stick it on the target consistantly enough for me.
    This isn’t about whether we like him or not.
    It’s whether he’s a SB caliber QB. Can he carry the Team in the Playoffs?
    Did against the Saints. Came up short against the NYG.
    Shows progress for sure.
    He’s our QB until he isn’t.
    You’re obviously higher on him than most.
    I’m hoping he makes a believer out of me now that he has some WRs beyond Crabtree,KWilliams and Ginn.
    When he can make a read and stick a throw on a consistant basis I’ll consider him a success.
    He’s not laser accurate or lightning quick but, he can learn from Harbaugh.
    Aaron Rodgers can stick a throw. Close the gap with Aaron and we might have something.
    Question is, can he close that gap before Kaep takes his job?

  147. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Good news is, he’s not Druckenmiller.
    Bad news is, he’s not Joe.
     
    He’s our QB. We always want more. We want an Offense that dictates like our Defense does.
    Alex needs more confidence.
    Year 2 with a full Camp should give us something to base our future expectations on.
    For me, Alex and Crabtree just aren’t compatible.
    Something just ain’t right.
    Can’t develop chemistry when you miss Camps and Preseason time.
    Looking forward to Camp Harbaugh this year.
    Could be the end of business as usual for Crabtree.
    Step up or, step aside.

  148. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Alex? Hell yes Bergs. Wasn’t him who “came up short” against the Giants. He was good enough to have a lead in the 4th Q before the playa who shall not be mentioned uh, dropped the ball.

    Yes, hell yes. As NJ sez who else we got?

  149. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    Bad news is nobidy is or will be Joe. Steve Young couldn’t be.
    Montana last played for the Niners 20 years ago. Time to let that go and move forward and stop holding every QB to that standard
    unless you’re looking for failure.

  150. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Bulls eye bullit. Montana? Get over it already, that was when we were kids = like forever ago. 30 years, enough already with Montana. How often can we expect to reach the ideal? Seldom.
    .
    We got this. And it’s a hell of a lot betta than anything we seen in 10 years. Be happy.

  151. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Be verrry happy.
    .
    Sorry couldn’t resist

  152. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    One of the FA signees is Garret Celek TE Michigan State who is the younger brother of Brent Celek of the Eagles.
    Garret’s claim to fame right now seems to be his girlfriend.

    http://bustedcoverage.com/tag/garrett-celek-girlfriend/

  153. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    YES Berger…ive always liked and supported Alex…fine young man, loyal, hard worker and deserves to have success. Ive always thought he’s gotten a lousy deal with all the coaching changes, scheme changes, and lack of protection , weapons around him etc etc etc….before last season when it looked like he wouldnt be back…honestly i wasn’t happy about it….i didnt want to see him in Seattle or anywhere else. I was (as most of you know)pounding the table for Harbaugh to get hired. I felt he counld help make Alex successful. Last year he was miles better…i think he will continue to improve with another year and with the improving supporting cast…with all that said..im not sure Alex will ever be a top 5 QB…at some point Kaep or Tolzein will have oppertunities..and if one is better im good with that too…but honestly…if and when Alex is replaced as the starter…i hope he stays with the team….

  154. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    Speaking of Alex…i was reading a column from Lowel Cohn …it pretty much covers it:

    The answer is Alex Smith.

    What is the question?

    The question is this: What is the meaning of just about everything the 49ers did in free agency and the early rounds — the power rounds — of the NFL draft?

    Again I say the answer is Alex Smith, whether or not Smith knows it and whether or not the 49ers themselves know it.

    You probably want an explanation. Fair enough. Think back to last season. The 49ers had a great defense and a mediocre offense. The defense saved the season for the team. And the offense, such as it was, went along for the ride. The offense rarely dominated a game, but the defense most definitely dominated many games. So, there developed a curious situation on a 49ers team. In the land of innovative offenses, the team was defined as a defensive unit, and the offense was the little brother.

    Across the land — well, across Northern California — people felt a general dissatisfaction with the offense, and especially with Smith. He had some good games — notably the playoff win over New Orleans. But he was cautious and often did not pass when he should have passed. And he took too many sacks. He seemed like someone who longed to live a horizontal life.

    A philosophical dilemma emerged. If the Niners had a semi-wimpy offense — and they did — whose fault was it?

    One option was the standard Alex Smith explanation. He stinks. He was drafted first in 2005 for some strange reason and he never lived up to that pick and he never will. He is an over-analytical quarterback who would rather throw the ball away or check down than take the risk his pass might be intercepted. He has no sense of adventure and no pizzazz, and the Niners never will win a Super Bowl with him.

    As I say, that was one possible explanation. But running neck and neck with it was another explanation. And this one was fascinating. The problem with the Niners’ offense wasn’t Alex Smith at all, this reasoning went. It was everyone else. Oh, not exactly everyone, but most everyone else. The reason Smith couldn’t convert enough third downs or perform even adequately in the red zone was because his skill players weren’t so skilled. What was a quarterback to do?

    There was a certain amount of truth to this interpretation. When the 49ers lost to the Giants in the NFC Championship, only one Niners wide receiver caught a pass. That’s because San Francisco’s wide receivers were no big deal — Michael Crabtree and Kyle Williams don’t scare anyone. Crabtree is too slow and Williams is too small, and that meant Smith was like a big-time symphony conductor who was reduced to working with the high school band.

    I am not endorsing either explanation. I don’t have to and neither do you because the 49ers are in the process of resolving the debate right now. They seem to have embraced the idea that Smith is just fine. All he needed was better receivers.

    So, they got him better receivers.

    “You can never have enough explosive playmakers on your football team,” general manager Trent Baalke said, “and we needed to add some pieces to the offense.”

    “Explosive” pretty well defines what he tried to do. In free agency, the Niners got two speedy receivers to stretch the field — Randy (Is He in the Mood to Play?) Moss and Mario Manningham. They already had two swift, strong intermediate route runners — Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker. And they drafted two players to go underneath the coverage.

    They would be wideout A.J. Jenkins, a strange first-round choice until you realize the Niners brought him in to give Smith an option on third down. Jenkins loves the underneath crossing route, and he presumably can stretch the field, too.

    “I defy anyone to tell me there’s something he lacks,” Jim Harbaugh said.

    Touchy. Touchy.

    In the second round, they took fast, elusive, Oregon running back LaMichael James, who may be better at catching passes coming out of the backfield than actually running — he’s small for the NFL. And they already have Frank Gore and they got free-agent Brandon Jacobs as a big short-yardage back. In the third round, they even took Joe Looney, a guard, to upgrade Smith’s protection.

    “We believe he’ll be a starter for us,” Harbaugh said.

    Unlike last season, the Niners are loaded offensively.

    Drooling over all these offensive toys, Harbaugh emoted, “It’s going to get real real, and it’s going to get real real, real fast for these young guys.”

    Mostly, it’s going to get real real, real fast for Alex Smith. Everything is there for him to succeed as it never was before. If he is a good quarterback, he can go bonkers with all these skill players. Joe Montana could. Steve Young could. Even Jeff Garcia could. I’m sure the Niners expect Smith to reach the next level. I’m sure they believe he has a next level.

    We’re about to find out because, if Smith fails, all excuses are gone. If Smith cannot produce any better with the addition of Manningham and Moss and Jacobs and Jenkins and James, it proves he was the problem all along. A failure or even a so-so season by Smith officially ends the debate and wipes out all questions and mysteries, and tells everyone once and for all the Niners need a new quarterback.

    “Alex Smith is our starting quarterback,” Harbaugh said. “That’s something that he’s earned. There’ll be competition at the quarterback position throughout the entire depth chart. They’ll be competing for the second spot. They’ll be competing for the third spot.”

    So, sure, Smith is No.1 on the depth chart and finally has been given impressive offensive weapons. Will he know what to do with them?

    For more on the world of sports in general and the Bay Area in particular, go to the Cohn Zohn at cohn.blogs.pressdemocrat.com. You can reach Staff Columnist Lowell Cohn at lowell.cohn@pressdemocrat.com.

  155. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Agree with Tony. Everything is there for Alex now. He absolutely opens as your 2012 starter. No one has the time to develop enough to replace him IMHO. Whether he is still here in 2013, depends on how he performs. He has played brilliantly at times in his career – but only for brief intervals. He will need to demonstrate a consistency that has eluded him thus far, in this coming season. The biggest things are third downs and the Red Zone. We *will* be more aggressive this year, with a year of experience in the offense, and more weapons. The play calling will be more creative, and Smith has to perform. If Smith shows he can be the engine of that, he will cement his position here. If not, it will be time for Kaep or Johnson or Tolzien. Harbaugh is very demanding and will keep pushing until he gets consistent superior play from his QB. He’ll get his Manning type, whether it’s Alex, one of the subs, or another guy he brings in. For Alex, this is really the Make or Break year. I wish him well, but I remain skeptical that he can read defenses and make decisions quite quickly enough to get it done. There is nothing wrong with his arm, this is all about intangibles. We’ll see.

    Bergs – bragging rights are fine. Actually, you’ll win this year. Crick is still recovering from his injury, and I doubt he contributes much this year. The Colts are so lousy that Chapman should get more chances sooner. Down the line, they both should be good.

  156. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- Thanks for the direct answer.
     
    I’m liking this draft because of how much quicker and faster we got on offense. We’ll be able to do some things this year that we weren’t very good at last year.

  157. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    On the previous discussion about Joe Montana, Niner fans have been luckier than most other franchises. Joe Montana was followed by Steve Young and Jerry Rice by Terrel Owens.
    Look at Miami, Marino was replaced with Jay Fieldler, In Dallas Aikman’s replacement was Quincy Carter and in Denver Elway was followed by Brian Griese. All 3 franchises are syill looking for a decent QB.
    Green Bay is the exception with Favre being replaced by Rodgers.
    Now you wonder if Luck can live up to the Peytom Manning expectations of Colt’s fans.
    It’s going take a few years as the supporting cast in Indy has eroded as Luck has Reggie Wayne on the downside of his career, no creditable running game and a patchwork OL. That is far from Manning having Harrison, Wayne and Dallas Clark in their prime
    and Edgerin James running the ball. Will Luck overcome the Peyton did it this way comparison which is grossly unfair.

  158. robNo Gravatar says:

    i like the first two picks !

    for me the rest still need looking into !

  159. robNo Gravatar says:

    interesting that we traded out in rd three ! i thought this might be the year for us to trade up !

  160. robNo Gravatar says:

    is it just me , or has baalke gone a bit crazy when he decided to trade up in the fourth to pick … looney !

  161. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    You might read the LaMichael James was suspended for domestic violence in 2010 and put on probation. Here are the actual court docs and if you read the
    testimony it’s pretty mild and it take two to tango to have a fight.
    It’s a blemish but I don’t see it as problematical or reccuring.

    http://www.scribd.com/theoregonian/d/28271575-LaMichael-James-Sentencing-Memorandum

  162. robNo Gravatar says:

    hmmm
    baalke seems to be making every effort to add 0-line depth here !
    i think i lihttp://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2012/04/round-6b-49ers-take-center-jason-slowey-from-western-oregon.htmlke this kid !

  163. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    AJ Jenkins comes to the Bay Area
    Good insider footage with WR coach Morton meeting him at the airport. AJ reveals Jerry Rice has bigger hands than he does.
    Niners have had “Big Hands: Gary Johnson and Charle Young with his “meathook” hands.
    http://www.49ers.com/media-gallery/videos/49-in-49-RB-LaMichael-James/3aaf5523-e245-4dc0-870a-220b43b4aff3#?id=81b3651a-7190-4d75-a9a1-1040fb3f8738&channelName=Recent

  164. robNo Gravatar says:

    ooooh
    Deep Purple Mark 4 previously unreleased jam
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=379L0lkAQv4

  165. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    NO, but sometimes the ugly gal at the bar at 2AM is all you got.

    I’m pumped and ready for rounds 8-10. When do they start?

  166. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    (We interrupt this 49er draft thread for another quick portion of the always popular Alex Smith debate. For our listeners who have heard it all before and are over it, please continue on and ignore the following)
     
    Well Berger, since you asked, and since I’ve been accused of waffling, I’ll come clean. My short answer is no. There is no question that he improved dramatically, and that last year was his best. I also have no doubt that he can improve further. It is my opinion however that two crucial aspects of his game are pretty much at their ceiling. His speed at reading defenses and ability to lead receivers open/take chances.
     
    I realize that last one is a double edge sword. Last year’s 5 int’s was amazing, but it came with a conservatism that won’t always work. With the outstanding play of our D, ST, and an impossible-to-repeat TO ratio, the recipe was very nearly, and probably should have been, a SB.
     
    But alas, I don’t think that same recipe will work. Injuries, improvement with other teams in our division, a tougher schedule, a fall back to earth TO ratio, and EVERY team gunning for us WILL changge the recipe for winning. That is why, and I was criticized for being way too pessimistic on another blog, I predicted a 10-6 season this year. In this scenario, we will have to score more points, and take more chances.
     
    I don’t think Alex is ever going to be the 300+ YPG passer, and if that ends up being something we need, due to let downs on D or any given Sunday, I think he’ll come up short.
     
    I’ve said before though, and argued w/ Spitblood about it, but despite my opinion of Alex’s ceiling, I DO believe he deserves to start this year. Had we landed Manning, I’d say no. But who else? CK? JJ? ST? No body of evidence to support that at this time. Nope, it’s Alex and as long as he keeps winning, he’ll be difficult to unseat. And as long as he keeps winning, why should I care?
     
    /EndWaffling

  167. robNo Gravatar says:

    wow
    really like to see more from these two !
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-64RVL_aA&feature=related

  168. robNo Gravatar says:

    RUFUS
    LOL
    NO, but sometimes the ugly gal at the bar at 2AM is all you got.

    I’m pumped and ready for rounds 8-10. When do they start?

    and yes they’re called undrafed free agents now !

  169. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ and Tony are yes, Barley is no. I don’t need to ask RT.

  170. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The Smith debate is apt because we just got him some needed weapons.

  171. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Reno, my lifetime of being a Niner fan far outweighs my lack of respect for Alex as an NFL starter.
    I’ll be an enormously happy camper if Alex can reprise his 2011 performance in a season which I think is going to be far more difficult (schedule, O-line health, turnover diff, etc.).

  172. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I’m a no, but I’d really like to be proven wrong. This team is very close to a Super Bowl. All we need is maybe 20% more offensive efficiency on third down and in the Red Zone. IIRC we converted about 30% last year on 3rd down, 36% and we probably would have won it all for #6. So, Alex, Please, feel free to prove me wrong! And if you can’t, get out of the way quickly so someone else can get it done.

  173. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yes, no, who cares? This debate has been going on forever. Cohn is right about the WRs being shit. VD is about the only guy who was able to get open consistently last year. We’ve all been noting Crabs inability to come to camp and get on the same page as Alex. Crabs dissed Smith pretty heavily last preseason. This shit is obvious. Also obvious is the shittiness of Alex’s coaches over the years.
    .
    I’ve said that every fricking year is make-or-break with Alex. Somehow he keeps getting opportunities, and somehow we are stuck with him. He finally got a decent coach last year. Now he has some tools. All that being said, even the front office hedged their bet with him. Why shouldn’t the rest of us? It’s not like these guys won’t help teh other QBs in the barn.
    .
    I want him to succeed, sure. But not at the expense of moving forward with Cappy.

  174. robNo Gravatar says:

    my opinion of smith hasn’t changed since o4 !

    6.5 to 7.5 on a scale of 1-10

  175. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Rob, that range is the crux of our problem. With our D, 7.5 might get it done. But not 6.5. He’s a guy who is adequate, but not superior. That might be enough, if our defense holds up. If it isn’t, then it’s time for JJ or CK.

  176. robNo Gravatar says:

    GRUMPY
    i pretty much agree . imho smith is ok. but we probably could do better

    NOFEAR
    get over montana !

  177. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The “he’s not Joe” crowd are destined to a lifetime of disappointment and frustartion.
    Actually you guys disrespect Montana thinking his legacy can be matched.
    I feel fortunate that he came along when he did and allowed me to experience 4 Super Bowl victories.
    I can make it easy for you. Alex Smith is not Joe Montana and most likely will never come close to his accomplishments. However that doesn’t mean he’s not capable of leading the team to and winning a Super Bowl.
    Also until last year Alex Smith didn’t have the coaching or the offensive weapons that Joe had.
    Is this too logical for you anti Alex guys?

  178. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niners put out another video of AJ Jenkin’s arrival and meeting some of the players. You get a good feeling about this guy.

    http://www.49ers.com/media-gallery/videos/AJ-Jenkins-Arrives-in-San-Francisco/aa813f83-01b3-4312-89e9-9ff991fa41bc

  179. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    The “He’s not Joe” argument is a straw man put up by the Alex enablers.
    More accurate and apropos would be “He’s not Stan Humphries” or “He’s not Chris Chandler”.
    Or perhaps you care to try “He’s not Jake Delhomme”?
    Unfortunately for the Faithful, we already know it.

  180. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I like the behind the scenes videos the Niners release.
    The first guy AJ runs into in the stairwell is Keena Turner. He probably doesn’t know who he is or how great he was.
    Then he meets Tomsula who talks his ear off.
    He did know what “the catch” was which is essential to being a Niner and hopefully he has “the catch” 5 in his future
    Thought it was a special moment when they showed him his jersey
    #17 with his name on it.

  181. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Grump, to answer your earlier question as to why Cam Johnson fell to the 7th round…he was diagnosed with sickle-cell anemia last year.
     
    I’m not even going to dignify the Alex question with an answer. Because if you don’t already know my answer…Well, tell ’em Ray…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GX8UalMq8k&feature=related

  182. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah I don’t expect our QB to be like Joe. That’s a once in a lifetime thing. I’d settle for being like Young or Brodie or Garcia at this point. Maybe not great, but better than average and not potentially holding back the offense sounds pretty good to me.

  183. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    look at NJ’s post from 1:34am and look who’s introducing the “Joe” argument.
    None of the anti-Alex crowd have the balls to say let’s go with
    CK or JJ or ST. Why won’t you stick your necks out? Why is that?

  184. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah I heard somewhere that it affects Cam’s endurance. He possibly could not ever be an every-down player.

  185. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Well, Bullit, Spit wanted to go with CK last year.
     
    Me, I would rather wait until we’re sure he – or whoever else – is ready. For now, Alex is still our best option. By next year, I hope that either we have a better option, or Alex has finally justified the investment in him and laid the doubts to rest.

  186. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, can’t I say that I think Alex has reached his zenith AND acknowledge that it is currently better than an unproven CK has to offer — right now? If it really is a black or white response necessary then sure, I’ll give it. But that seems rather pointless.
     
    Alex will start. He’ll have a couple players pushing from behind. If he falters, they’ll get their chance. Nothing rocket science about it. It just looks like that is how it will play out, no matter I do or don’t think about it.

  187. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I sat on the fence about Alex because of how bad our coaching was. Sing even said the QB is not the most important player on the field. After Seeing what he did last year with a coach with a clue I am now an Alex believer.
     
    Is he great? No. Will he be? I don’t know. I do know he tied an NFL record for the least ints for a QB in one season. I do know he went 14-4. I do know he had six 4th quarter comnebacks last year. I do know he took control during the lock out which shows great leadership. I do know he is our starter.
     
    I’m looking forward to seeing how he and the team does this year. I believe Alex will well. We will all see soon enough.

  188. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Alex was also the 2nd rated QB in the Red Zone the 2 years before this last one. Harbaugh knew he had a great kicker and a really good defense. I believe he asked Alex to play it safe. I do not think that will happen this year.

  189. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit my post regarding Druck and Joe was simply a reality check on the spectrum between the Greats and the wannabe’s.
    We have our history and were fortunate to have many of the Leaders associated with the NFL.
    I place no expectations of similar success on Alex in comparison to Joe, rather,I’m just hoping he strives to get there.
    We’re all die hard 9er Fans here, we want success. Football,Greatest Team Sport on Earth IMO, everyone has to ‘Want It’ on every play.
    Jerry and Joe wrote the book on calm and poise under pressure.
    Alex is Alex, he’ll never be Joe.
     
    I’d just suggest that he ‘Want It’ as badly as Joe did.
    Hold his head up, stare down a rush and deliver a strike in crunch time.
    Just like the N.O. game.
    Do it consistantly.
    Crabtree doesn’t suggest to me that he ‘wants it’ like Jerry did either.
    This game demands fire and passion. Harbaugh is trying to deliver that message to Alex at every opportunity.
    Alex is not a confident, cold-blooded killer at his position.
    Can Harbaugh deliver that quality to him through coaching?
    We’ll see.
     
    I’d like nothing more than to see another SB win and be the only Undefeated SB Franchise to reach 6.

  190. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    So the question is how do you think Alex Smith would do if he had the team that Joe had around him? Roger Craig, Tom Rathman, Rice and John Taylor, the Oline and having Bill Walsh give him a gameplan to succeed.
    That’s why I’m having a hard time wrapping my arms around what you’re saying.Joe was a huge piece but the talent around him was amazing and the coach was the Genius. That’s why your comparison is flawed.

  191. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, NoFear is tired of hearing this, but it’s another make-or-break year for Alex. All the other timers ot was make-or break, other shit got in the way. First it wss the injury, 2009 it was losing Nolan, and Sing trying him out. Restructure rather than leave. Then it was Sing flaming out. Then it was the lockout. New coach, new offense, and success! Even then, there were questions. No passes to WRs in the NY game. Hmmm. Did the WRs have something to do with that? Or was it coach-killer’s fault. The team seems to think WRs may have been a problem. They made that a priority this offseason. What will it mean?
    .
    Again, we’ll see. Alex keeps having to prove himself over and over. Is he up to one more challenge? Sure. Why not?
    .
    Is he Archie Manning? As Grump points out, John Brodie seems to be the nearest comparison. A good guy on some bad teams that took a ton of shit til he had the semblance of a team around him.

  192. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit my comparison is more about personalities.
    Joe Cool vs Alex Lukewarm.
    The Team dynamic is still a work in progress.
    I agree, Joe got better when Jerry arrived, no question.
    Flawed or not, I’m hoping for a QB/WR Tandem that can think and react in unison.
    There’s still a disconnect IMO, between he and Crabtree.
    Granted, new Systems every year etc, no chemistry developed.
     
    Alex needs what Joe possessed, quiet confidence and the mental fortitude to win.
    If he can obtain those pieces of his game and, master this WCO, we’ll be a Playoff contender for the next 5 years.
    Don’t make it a personal afront on Alex.
    I simply think he’s got to get mentally tougher to play Playoff caliber football on a consistant basis.
    The Team will develop around him,that’s what Harbaugh and Baalke will provide.
    Alex needs what Harbaugh is selling.
    A fire to beat the opponent.
    A confidence to command the Offense.

  193. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    If there is any team due for a good old fashion crap beating by the Niners, it’s the Giants. Smack ’em one time for Bill, another time for Jimbo.

  194. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    The Niners were 7th in offense in 1981, Joe’s 3rd season and first full-time year. No one is going to convince me he had an all-star cast.
    1982-7th again
    1983-4th

    Alex’s best: 11th last year in his 7th season against competition ranked 31st in the NFL.

    How do I think Alex would have done? On Bill Walsh’s team??? He wouldn’t have been there long enough to find out.

  195. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    RT, Harbaugh played mentor and cheeleader last year for Alex.
    Alex responded with his best record to date.
    No reason to see him taking a step back this Season unless he can’t speed up his mental processing.
    Alex and Eli are similar personalities. Quiet types.
    Eli has more balls and takes his shots.
    Alex can develop that if he wants to.
    He’s got plenty going for him in terms of Coaching continuity now, hope he takes advantage of it and steps up like a Pro.

  196. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Alex will get another shot regardless of what I write. We’ll see.

  197. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Alex needs a quicker twitch.
    3-Step ball out kinda timing with a WR.
    On time, on target, see you in the End Zone.
    If he can master that 1 Route, this Offense becomes hard to handle.
    Especially with all the speed we just Drafted.

  198. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Agreed RT, Alex is here until he’s not.
    Hoping he climbs another level.
    We need him to improve.

  199. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Jim Mora voice: “Montana? MONTANA? Are you kidding me?”
    .
    Montana is a grandfather now or should be. That whole generation of greats, Rice, Walsh, Taylor, are long gone and the Niners slowly declined until Eddie pulled out a large caliber pistola and…here we are. Don’t keep insulting the greats by comparing them to what followed.
    .
    Hey Rob, you over Montana by now?

  200. robNo Gravatar says:

    PHIL
    lol

  201. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, huh?

  202. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2017 Schedule
Sept. 10: vs. Carolina, 1:25 p.m.
Sept. 17: at Seattle, 1:25 p.m.
Sept. 21: vs. L.A. Rams, 5:25 p.m.
Oct. 1: at Arizona, 1:05 p.m.
Oct. 8: at Indianapolis, 10 a.m.
Oct. 15: at Washington, 10 a.m.
Oct. 22: vs. Dallas, 1:05 p.m.
Oct. 29: at Philadelphia, 10 a.m.
Nov. 5: vs. Arizona, 1:05 p.m.
Nov. 12: vs. N.Y. Giants, 1:25 p.m.
Week 11 — Bye
Nov. 26: vs. Seattle, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 3: at Chicago, 10 a.m.
Dec. 10: at Houston, 10 a.m.
Dec. 17: vs. Tennessee, 1:25 p.m.
Dec. 24: vs. Jacksonville, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 31: at L.A. Rams, 1:25 p.m.
 
2017 Draft Class
1. DE Solomon Thomas
1. ILB Reuben Foster
3. CB Ahkello Witherspoon
3. QB C.J. Beathard
4. RB Joe Williams
5. TE George Kittle
5. WR Trent Taylor
6. DT D.J. Jones
6. LB Pita Taumoepenu
7. CB Adrian Colbert
 
2016 Prognostications
Closest To The Pin
  Grumpy: 3-13
  Spitblood: 3-13
  Winder: 3-13
Bakkentom: 0-16
Bullit: 5-11
Chuck: 8-8, 7-9, 9-7, 10-6
Mr Fletch: 4-12
NJ49er: 5-11
Phil Fan: 4-12
Rob: 9-7
RTFirefly: 7-9
Skeebers: 6-10

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