Crime and Punishment

The draft is two and a half weeks off, the first offseason practices are a week away, and the Gregg Williams scandal is threatening to end life on earth, as we know it. The players involved in Bountygate have yet to be punished, so this affair will drag on for awhile.

It’s a tough story to cover without a soap box, because the subject matter is serious and there are no heroes, and Roger Goodell is certainly on the unhero list. Williams is more buffoon than villain and Goodell is mostly a Machiavellian hypocrite. These two are big ego types that don’t arouse much empathy and will get none here.

There is collateral damage, though. Williams has a wife, a daughter, and two sons — the oldest one is still a Saints’ coach. The head of their household has gone from a highly respected figure to a national laughingstock at best, a foul-mouthed beast at worst. Long after the scandal has come and gone, these people will carry the burden.

Kyle Williams got no favors from this deal, either. The entire league now knows about his concussion history and his head will be a target for the rest of his career.

The Youtube video that put a fork in Williams was yet another reminder to count my blessings that my youth occurred before the internet/cell phone age. There’s a few less than sterling scenes in my life where the video footage remains very much alive in my own head, and no doubt a select few others, but is not engraved on the stone tablets of the world wide web, complete with a sound track, laugh track, and hundreds of nasty comments.

At least the 49ers had more than one player deemed worthy of targeting. A few years ago, teams just went after Frank Gore and laughed off the rest of the squad. In fact, Gore didn’t even get a mention on Williams’ hit list.

It’s hard not to compare the severity of the punishment leveled against the Saints versus the pattycake treatment of the Patriots a few years back. Bill Belichick violated league rules and cheated and his actions directly affected the integrity of the game and three Super Bowls. To this day, he has not owned up to his crimes, which may have been going on for most of his coaching career. There was no massive fact finding inquiry by the NFL. Belichick didn’t miss one game or one paycheck.

Gregg Williams did not cheat. He just violated a league directive, a rule forbidding bounties. Conveniently so, given the pending class action lawsuit against the league about failing to properly inform players of the serious health risks of playing the game. Or something like that. Concussions are the meat and potatoes of the lawsuits. Without this legal action, would the NFL have done anything much more than suspend Williams for a game or two, just to get the message across?

The difference between the two scandals is distinct: the NFL wants you to know about the Saints’ crimes and the NFL’s serious prosecution of these crimes; the league does not want you to know just how serious Belichick’s cheating was or how superficial the investigation of his crimes was. We’re going to see players caught in the Bouny scandal punished worse than Belichick was.

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29 comments on “Crime and Punishment
  1. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    From listening to players on the radio, it seems what has them the most upset is when Williams talked about taking out Crabtree’s knee.

  2. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    No player wants to hear that kind of talk or intent. But Williams doesn’t play in the game, so it’s just appalling rhetoric, basically. I can’t imagine any player purposefully trying to cripple another player.

  3. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Greg Williams reminds me of the Nick Nolte Colonel in “The Thin Red Line” in which it’s easy to
    order men under your command to take a hill regardless of
    getting annihilated as long as you don’t have to go yourself.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHxJp2wgb-g

  4. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    From Niners Nation here is a list of potentail draftees who have visited or will visit Niner’s facility for a workout

    Team hosted visit
    Claude Davis, DE, South Florida
    Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame
    D.J. Holt, LB, Cal
    A.J. Jenkins, WR, Illinois
    Jeremy Lane, CB, Northwestern State
    Andre Hardy, TE, Cal State Fullerton
    Robert Turbin, RB, Utah State
    David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech
    Rueben Randle, WR, LSU

  5. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    To cash in on the Aint’s Super Bowl Win Sean Payton wrote a book which affirms that he was in charge and knew exactly what was going on. The investigators for the NFL have gone through his book. Oops!

  6. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Actually, Skeebs, Gore is mentioned in the audio in regards to hitting him in the head. Get his head sideways, get him running sideways . . .
    .
    Weird thing is, we’ll never know if Payton fired Williams for the soon-to-be-team-nightmare that is bounty-gate, or my original thought of Williams leaving VD in single coverage late in the game . . .

  7. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Goodell just upheld all the suspensions and denied the appeals.
    Payton begins his suspension on 4/16.
    Goodell will review their behavior when the suspensions are to end so there’s the possibility
    he could extend them if the suspended skirt the rules or act badly while serving the suspension.
    Wishful thinking on reduced suspensions from the Aints..

  8. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Intent to commit a crime is still a crime, NoFear. Say you hire a hit man to kill your wife, and he goes to the cops. You are still on the hook for attempted murder . . .

  9. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Goodie Goodell has been preaching safety since he came in the league. This flies in the face of his preachings, eh? If you haven’t noticed, he’s come down hard on players for hits, and he even got Worthlessberger suspended even though Worthlessberger committed no crime in the eyes of the law.
    .
    Is he merely doing it for PRs sake? For the sake of the corporate sponsors? Or is he really ocncerned for player safety? Doesn’t matter. His word is law.
    .
    Goodell’s above the law in big Ben’s case.

  10. robNo Gravatar says:

    all i can do is repeat my post from before …

    hit gore in the head ?
    take out a guy’s knee ?

    williams is a douchebag

  11. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    NF, it’s all politics there. In the real world though, justice has *never* been blind. Emmitt Till’s family and thousands of others got no satisfaction, and never had a chance of it. GW’s problem is he fracked up visibly, stupidly, and in a jurisdiction that would just as soon see him flogged. Bad move. He might skate by with just his career in tatters, or he might be dragged into court. I feel bad for his family, not so much for him.

  12. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NF is still missing the point.
    Goodell told the Saints to stop this nonsense. They kept doing it.
    In military terms it’s defying a direct order from a superior.
    Is this how you live your life NF?
    You run 5 red lights in a row but make it through without getting hit or hitting someone. A cop pulls you over and slaps the cuffs on you to arrest you. Your reposnse is you didn’t hit anyone
    so what’s the harm? REALLY???

  13. robNo Gravatar says:

    or maybe … williams really is a douchebag !

    topic over !

  14. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Remember S Curtis Taylor from 3 or 4 years ago? His brother Brandon Taylor is also a S from LSU and is projected as a 2nd to 4th round choice in this years draft.Beat out other outstanding DBs and DL Brockers to be voted defensive MVP of his Tiger team.

  15. robNo Gravatar says:

    recent comments on the 49ers outsider !

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgGvd1UPZ88

  16. robNo Gravatar says:

    and …
    upon starting his own blog , skeebers decides to celebrate by taking a room with the skeebette !

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXn2QVipK2o

  17. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Apparently, Rob’s Easter Bunny efforts did not fare well.
     
    http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s320x320/557080_3665230314870_1398139415_33383220_824756115_n.jpg
     
    No need to take it out on me, Rob.

  18. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Being There is one of my all time favorite Peter Sellers movies. I think he had 5 heart attacks during the filming, and died shortly after it.

  19. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear, nowhere do I agree with any of yer stuff. I’m merely reporting what Goodie Goodell did in big Ben’s case. GG had absolutely no right to suspend Worthlessberger for sexual harassment. Mainly because he was never convicted of anything. That didn’t stop Goodell. Ben could very easily have challenged his suspension based on the fact that he was never CHARGED with a crime. Worthless would have looked petty and ridiculous, but still and all, Goodell has no authority to keep BW from playing football when he wasn’t charged with anything.
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    On Bounty-Gate, well, Williams thought HE was above the rules set forth by the league. Mainly because NO front office gave him carte blanche to run his defense his way. It worked inside team HQ, but sadly for him, Goodell didn’t see it the same way and lowered the boom.
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    My overarching point is Goodell has proven so far to really come down hard on shit that makes the league LOOK bad. Allegedly having cops funnel drunk chicks for Ben to fondle in a bathroom looks pretty cheezy, eh? Yeah, it’s PR bullshit. Duh. The NFL is a Zillion dollar business. But it has also been his policy to protect the players AND the integrity of the game. PR hackery? Sure, could be. But with all this goes the idea that he’s protecting the players from this becoming a bloodsport.
    .
    YOUR point is since no one was hurt on our side, there was no rule-breaking. The rule-breaking is the bounties. The rule breaking is the intent to injure. The rule-breaking has beenn going on (allegedly) since 2008.
    .
    Whatever this means, gone are the days when players kill people driving drunk and don’t miss a game, a la Leonard Little.

  20. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Coaches, GMs and players all sign contracts that are standard form
    NFL templates. These contracts
    say you will obey the rules and regulations of the NFL or be penalized if you are in breach of the trems.
    Minimum salary in the NFL is 360K
    per year. It would take most here 5-10 years to make that MINIMUM.
    Goodell has made his point that it is not your RIGHT but your PRIVILEGE to play in the NFL but you must follow his rules.

    This is really a pre-emptive strike to provide the NFL with cover for the upcoming lawsuits
    coming from ex-players. GW wrong place wrong time going to be made an example of.

  21. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Defending the ‘sinning Saints’, GW, Vilma? Why? I don’t get it. Slap the bums down, make ’em an example, make ’em repent for their heinous actions.
    .
    Good insurance against the torrent of lawsuits too

  22. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Because you are using a Social Studies book, NoFear. Yeah, yer analogy was pointless, vague, and wrong. Like most of your attempts at communication. Hyuk.
    .
    Targeting specific players for concussions/knee injuries isn’t over the line? It is, No Fear. Especially in the eyes of Goodell. And that’s what matters in the end. Cash for injuries violates the CBA as well.
    .
    Tell me what happens after EVERY NFL game, NoFear. The players all shake hands and talk. They mingle around and find old college teammates. Some pray together. The point being, this isn’t 1965. Teams don’t hate each other like they used to. Sure, it lives in the fans minds, but not really on the field. With a few exceptions. But this would be the reason that players might blow off GW’s antics, as trash talk, but his bringing reward money into changes the deal.
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    Say you are a 3rd string CB who is on the bubble for being cut, and you see DeSean Jackson running down the field. Do you make a solid tackle, or do you wait until sonmeone else engages him and you go for his knees and injure him. Will you get penalized? Maybe. Fined? Maybe. But you get your cash in hand, just in case.

  23. robNo Gravatar says:

    SKEEBS !

    😀

  24. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Slowwwwwwwwwwww time. Madieu Williams signs with the Skins.
    For your listening pleasure

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9H0j17XTyA&feature=related

  25. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    THis might be a reason they haven’t signed a veteran RG.
    Snyder’s replacement might in on the team already and his name isn’t Kilgore but rather Alex Boone.

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-san-francisco-niners/niners-talk/Boone-expected-to-get-chance-to-compete-?blockID=686430&feedID=5936

  26. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2018 Schedule
9-9: @ Vikings, 10:00 am Sun.
9-16: vs. Lions, 1:25 pm, Sun.
9-23: @ Chiefs, 10:00 am, Sun.
9-30: @ Chargers, 1:25 pm, Sun.
10-7: vs. Cardinals, 1:25 pm, Sun.
10-15: @ Packers, 5:15 pm, Mon.
10-21: vs. Rams, 5:20 pm, Sun.
10-28: @ Cardinals, 1:25 pm, Sun.
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BYE
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12-2: @ Seattle, 5:20 pm, Sun.
12-9: vs. Broncos, 1:25 pm, Sun.
12-16: vs. Seattle, 1:25 pm, Sun.
12-23: vs. Bears, 1:05 pm, Sun.
12-30: @ Rams, 1:25 pm, Sun.
 
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2. WR Dante Pettis
3. LB Fred Warner
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4. DE Kentavius Street
5. CB D.J. Reed
6. S Marcell Harris
7. DT Jullian Taylor
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Skeebers: 6-10
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