Last Call for 2011 Draftniks

Hummmmm Baby! The 2011 NFL Draft Week has mercifully arrived.

This year’s draft class has been pawed, poked, analyzed, and shuffled up and down the boards for three long empty months now. It’s Show Time, fake college boys!

Last year at this time, the top six fellows were virtual certainties: Sam Bradford, Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Trent Williams, Russell Okung, and Eric Berry. The draft didn’t really get interesting until pick number seven, which was Joe Haden to Cleveland. Groans were heard in Ninerland when draft-throb C.J. Spiller went to Buffalo at pick nine, where he had an undistinguished first year. Had the Niners picked him, he would have had an undistinguished first year here, too. A team like Philly or the Saints, Spiller would have made some news. Buffalo and Singlemindedtary, not a chance.

This year’s top six guys aren’t so well defined. Everyone agrees on only four of them: Marcell Dareus, Patrick Peterson, Von Miller, and A. J. Green. It’s generally assumed that the other two will be QBs Cam Newton and Blaine Gabbert. We shall see.

Nick Fairley and Da’Quan Bowers began the off season as top six guys, but for various reasons have pretty much fallen from these exalted heights, with Bowers doing the most serious face plant. So, things probably won’t get interesting until pick number seven again this year.

Which, as we all know, is the 49ers draft spot. Normally, we could count on the Raiders being slotted ahead of us to waste a pick, but Undead Al’s team outperformed the Niners last year. They still suck, mind you, but they will not be sucking in the draft to our benefit this year. Maybe Buffalo will do something wacky. We can hope.

Three options at pick seven have risen to the top of the blogsville opinion chart: Robert Quinn, Prince Amukamara, or a trade downward a few spots, where we can get an extra pick and still get one of these two.

Rats. I really wanted Peterson. A lock down CB might have gotten us two more wins last year than the pitiful six we attained, and even one more win would have put the team in the playoffs. Of course, that would have meant we’d be looking at year three of you-know-who coaching the team, so maybe those extra wins would not have been a good thing, all in all. A premature ejaculation, so to speak. And I use the clinical/metaphorical meaning here, not the woman’s club snickering/sneering meaning, which would be a shameless attempt to prurientize this post, rather than merely provide space for a superiorly fine humm-baby word, IMHO. Ejaculation. Now there’s a good, solid WOTD that gets underused because of its association with, you know, flopperoni in the wink-wink room. [Ed note: Sheesh, pal, move along already.]

The Niners could get Peterson by trading up to the Bengals spot at pick #4, but it would cost us probably a third, fourth, and seventh to do so. Keeping those picks and drafting Amukamara at seven, or a few spots later, seems like a better way to go. Or just taking Quinn and hoping he turns out to be a Clay Matthews type pass rusher. Teaming him with Justin Smith on the right side of our D-line sounds like a scary combo for opposing QBs.

At any rate, there won’t be any lawyers in the room for awhile. Hallelujah! Well, except for today, that is. It’s expected that Judge Jensen will rule on the injunction this morning. Okay, babe, trot out your ruling, watch it get appealed, and then step aside. Your fifteen minutes of fame are over.

Let the last second draft heebee jeebees begin.



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40 comments on “Last Call for 2011 Draftniks
  1. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The ejaculation part of this post should have been left for marginalia.
    .
    As much as I liked Spiller my main want last year was at least one O-lineman and then maybe then maybe the safety that went to Seattle, Earl Thomas. A 2nd lineman and Spiller were excellent 2nd options. As it turned out, we got two O-linemen. I was happy as ever with that.

  2. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    If Carolina takes Dareus I think Denver takes Peterson. Hopefully Carolina takes Newton. Then I think Denver would take Dareus. Buffalo would then take Miller. I know it is a reach but they need O-linemen. If I was Buffalo I would take Costanzo. But let’s say they take Miller. This gets very interesting. I think Cincy wants a WR but the Carson Palmer situation might force them to go with Gabbert. That means Arizona takes Peterson. If Cincy goes WR then Arizona goes with Gabbert. It is a lock that Cleveland will take AJ Green if on the board.
    .
    So here are the variables we need to go our way. Carolina takes Newton. Dareus to Denver. Buffalo takes an O-lineman. If Buffalo does that it would not matter if Cincy takes Gabbert because I think Arizona would select Miller over Peterson. I’ve been reading the Browns are locked on to Green, I haven’t heard how they feel about Jones. This means if Cincy goes WR let us hope they take Jones.
    .
    What worries me if Gabbert and Peterson are both on the board we might take Gabbert. I think Gabbert can be a very good QB but he is a risk taker/gunslinger type. Any Favre or Cutler fan would love Gabbert. He is also very much like Rivers in SD. He would be an interesting pick but I would rather have Peterson. The main reason is Gabbert has a star/bust feeling. Peterson seems like a sure thing.

  3. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    If Peterson is ejaculated from the top six, we will all be happy.

  4. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The draft is such an inexact science. Look at the 2007 draft. I was torn between Willis, Carriker and Amobi Okoye. Process of elimination crossed off Okoye. Besides that, he was taken just before us. It was down to Carriker for need or Willis because hew was a better player. Carriker ended up being hurt his 1st two years, then traded and we all know about Willis. 49ers did good.
    .
    With our next 1st round pick we took Staley. Staley has been OK, nothing special but definitely serviceable. My rathers were Justin Harrell, LaMarr Woodley and David Harris. I didn’t even know who Staley was. Harrel went #16 to Green Bay and was a bust. Woodley and Harris went in the middle of the 2nd round and are all stars. That is why they say when evaluating a draft you need to wait three years.
    .
    I feel that Peterson is a sure thing. I only feel that way about Petrson and Dareus. Still, there are no sure things when it comes to the draft. How do you think a guy like Brady goes in rd 6 or Montana in the 3rd?

  5. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Yes, blogs demand instant gratification from draftees, but ejaculating judgments after only one year is definitely premature. A good example on the Niners is VD, who was treated like bad news his first couple years, and now everyone loves him.

  6. TonyNo Gravatar says:

    Hey Guys…well now we have some stuff to talk about for a week…thers a chance Peterson wouyld make it to us…alot of these ‘muck’ drafts (yes i ment to spell it like that) have us talking him…im thinking Quinn would be a great pick too….but if they are gone what do you guys think of trading that pick to either Carolina or Cincy for their #1 + for next year …those two teams will probubly be picking 1 – 2 next year ….then we have A GREAT SHOT AT OUR FRANCHISE QB

  7. TonyNo Gravatar says:

    Hey Guys…well now we have some stuff to talk about for a week…thers a chance Peterson wouyld make it to us…alot of these ‘muck’ drafts (yes i ment to spell it like that) have us talking him…im thinking Quinn would be a great pick too….but if they are gone what do you guys think of trading that pick to either Carolina or Cincy for their #1 + for next year …those two teams will probubly be picking 1 – 2 next year ….then we can draft our franchise qb from stanford…

  8. TonyNo Gravatar says:

    Wow …i should proof read my posts before i send them….sorry

  9. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like you [insert clinical adverb/verb description] your sentiments, Tony.

  10. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Tony- Interesting thought. I haven’t thought of that. I’m not sure if I like it or don’t like it. I’m leaning toward liking it.

  11. TonyNo Gravatar says:

    hey Berger…yea…id hate to give up a 1st this year…but id sure love having the 1st or 2nd overall next year…Carolina would use their first this year on Dareius and then our 7th overall on either Newton or Gabbert…( we get their first 2012 and 2nd or 3rd) they get a rookie qb like Newton which probubly means they might get 2 wins next year ..maybe…top pick will be between Carolina and Cincy (especially if Palmer retires} or we trade our first this year with Cincys next year AND Palmer…Cincy get Green and Gabbert/Newton… we get Luck with either trade

  12. TonyNo Gravatar says:

    If things fall right ( this coming seasons a mess already anyway)..we get Luck with either Cincys 1st or Carolinas 1st…and we still have our original 1st next year and either cinys or carolins 2/3 round too…lots of high picks next year AND LUCK….

  13. FranchiseNo Gravatar says:

    Gabbert at 7 is a smokescreen, nothing more. Clever bait by Coach H to get Synder to drop an extra 2nd or 3rd pick to us and trade up.

  14. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I guess I didn’t catch all of the Cam Newton interview with Gruden because I would have remembered this part. All I could tell Carolina is good luck with that arrogant SOB. And watch out, he’s a “gun.”
     
    http://tinyurl.com/4yczu45

  15. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- One way to anneal my jeolousy is to show links like that. Have a good time and drink a cold one for me! I’m seriously considering going to see a band named Crossfire on May 20th in Newcastle, CA. They do Stevie Ray Vaughan covers.

  16. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If you want to make the trek, Berger, there’s a Jimi Hendrix tribute at the Santa Cruz Blues festival on May 28th. Billy Cox, Kenny Wayne Shepard, Johnny Lang, Steve Vai and a bunch of other guys.
     
    http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ci_17516677

  17. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    BTW Chuck, I see rumblings of another member being added to the Half Century Club?
     
    Welcome, hope it’s an enjoyable year for you.

  18. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    That sounds great. I might but probabaly wont. You ever go to Constable Jacks in Newcastle?

  19. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Nope. Never heard of it, Reno.

    Yeah, NJ. The old saying applies:

    Once yer over the hill, you pick up speed . . .

  20. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Constable Jacks is a small blues club in Newcastle about a block or two from I-80. Walter Trout played there and Daniel Castro plays there about once a month. Crossfire will be there on May 20th. I’m trying to talk my wife into going to see that show.

  21. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger did you open that mile long link for BCC?
     
    New CD coming in time for the Show I’ll be attending – Can’t wait.
     
    Draft Party Thurs and Friday at my place, hoping for some 3-4 studs to get this Defense into the Top 5.
     
    Pick 7 is hosing my entire Mock efforts though. Peterson is the lock pick if he slides but, I’m not counting on it.

  22. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s what I’m gonna propose for 2011 –
     

    Rd 1 -I could live with Quinn or Amukamara I guess.
     
    That’s assuming Peterson is gone, but neither guy makes me wanna dance.
     
    Getting an offer to move down for an extra 3 would make the most the sense for me.
     
    Cam Jordan or JJWatt could be had in the teens I’d think.

    Rd 2 – OLB Brooks Reed or CB Aaron Williams if we pass on the CB at 7, he fills the FS need.

    Rd 3 – NT Kenrick Ellis

    Rd 4 – QB Ricky Stanzi

    Rd 4 – RB Taiwan Jones/’Quizz Rodgers/Shane Vereen

    Rd 5 – DT Ian Williams

    Rd 6 – FB Anthony Sherman/Owen Marecic

    Rd 6 – OG Stephen Schilling

    Rd 7 – QB Greg McElroy

    Rd 7 – K Kai Forbath

    Rd 7 – C Jake Kirkpatrick

    Rd 7 – DE/OLB Bruce Miller
     
    I have a dozen guys I like but, slotting them is all predicated on the 1st pick.

    I have NT Anthony Gray, CB Ryan Jones, FS Chris Prosinski and TE Brett Brackett as Top UFA options too.

  23. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- Yes, I opened it. That is what I was jeolous about, I’d like to be there. Enjoy. I just bought Bonamassa’s ‘Live from Nowhere in Particular’. Should be here by the end of the week.

  24. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    That one is probably my favorite from Joe – You won’t be disappointed

  25. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I could be wrong and I hope I am, but I smell an Armageddon coming to the NFL. It’s difficult to imagine the owners simply ending the lockout, rolling over, and letting the players return to work at full pay while those players continue to wage an all out assault on the league via their Brady lawsuit and flip the league the bone while they do it.
    .
    What happens if the owners simply say “Fine. There’s no CBA and no union. All current player contracts were signed under the guidelines of the defunct CBA and defunct union. So every player in the league is hereby fired. Anyone wanting to play football in the NFL will have to sign a new contract, one agreeing to accept the new league rules (whatever they are) and agree not to be a party to the current lawsuit or its results or any anti-trust actions against the league. All fired players may only sign with their former team if they choose to continue their careers.”
    .
    This might open the league up to some serious lawsuit damages, but it would take several years for this legal action to wend its way to conclusion. In the meantime, every player over thirty would effectively see their NFL careers permanently terminated – Brady, Manning, Brees, et al. All players in their twenties would see their best years wiped out, essentially ruining any career they envisioned having.
    .
    The lawsuit is an easy ride for the big money making players, but the vast majority of players are not in this category. They will be forced to either forget about a football career and get a real job, or knuckle under and abandon the decertified union bulldozer.
    .
    If there’s no CBA and no union, the league can impose any rules it wants. Players either accept them or take a hike. The league just waits till the draft is over with and then terminates the negotiations toward a new CBA. Why not? There’s no union, right? Why negotiate with a fake one?
    .
    It’s the players who have taken this disagreement out of the labor disputes realm and shoved it into the legal court system arena. Judge Jensen cannot legally compel the league to negotiate when the other party has willfully terminated those negotiations in order to file a lawsuit. She can end the lockout, but she can’t prevent owners from firing everyone, especially if that is the only way the league can essentially continue its lockout.
    .
    This is all probably nonsense. Right? Still, I feel an unease about where this dispute is headed.

  26. robNo Gravatar says:

    NJ AND BERGER bcc is doing another CD soon called BCC 2 and play some deep purple tunes in their live set , mostly burn title track from their popular 74 album !

  27. robNo Gravatar says:

    for all you cool dudes on here and since this is a pretty cool site i feel i can post this here ! i have new contact info and want to hear from any and all of you on draft day !!!

    robertpdeluca@aol.com
    phone 727-600-9540 !

  28. robNo Gravatar says:

    btw april 28th is my birthday so how cool is that ! i wonder what the niners will get for my b-day ! imho we have a good shot at peterson because the teams ahead of us need QB or D-line help ! none of them have big needs at CB !

  29. robNo Gravatar says:

    the good news imo

    Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU:

    A.J. Green, WR, Georgia:

    Von Miller, OLB, Texas A&M:

    Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama:

    Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina:

    Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn:

    and two of the QB’s

    gabbert and newton , will go in the top six ! my math says we WILL have a chance at at least two of the ‘fellows ‘ (as skeebs likes to say) listed above !
    i know i’m excited about our chances of adding a star player to our team at # seven !

  30. robNo Gravatar says:

    oops sorry to hog the board , but my favs are
    1. dareus
    2. peterson
    if none of the top six are there when we pick we should trade down some !

  31. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Hog away, Rob. You have a whole off season of being mum to make up for. The rest of us seem to be speculated out, anyway.

  32. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    rob- Now that you have a phone and computor connection you can be in jamboree mode!

  33. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    NJ, RTF was able to get back on my blog, if yer so inclined.

    I’m having a draft contest . . .

  34. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    They may very well trade down and draft Locker at around 25. If he’s gone, get Dalton . . .

  35. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Locker can’t throw straight from the pocket. I’d rather have Alex Smith. Major mistake.

  36. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t think PP is getting past Arizona now. Word is that the Cards will take the BPA at five. We all know who that is. We’re gonna be left with second best — Prince. I think that might be the reason why Eric Davis is talking him up so much. Trying to fool the fans into thinking we got the best DB regardless. He’s already turned into a great 49er shill.

  37. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I’m hoping Peterson, Dalton. The Niners will have to trade up to get him though if AZ doesn’t go QB in the 1st.

  38. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck-
    I tried to post on your site with the OpenID option and was denied –
    Something about credentials could not be verified?

  39. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Have you tried a google ID?
     
    Takes about 10 seconds to set one up.
     

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