49ers 22, Chiefs 17

The San Francisco 49ers squeeeeeeeeeeeaked by the Kansas City Chiefs Sunday afternoon in Santa Clara, on a sweltering hot day featuring two bread and butter, meat and potatoes, lunch bucket blue collar football teams.

The Chiefs started fast with two long drives for 10 points, but the 49ers wore them out late with three straight FG drives of 9, 13, and 14 plays. Even so, the Chiefs had the ball and two minutes left to march down field for the win. But Chiefs QB Alex Smith let the air out of their balloon quickly by overthrowing TE Anthony Fasano on his second pass, and for the second straight week, Perrish Cox ended the drama with an interception.

It was an odd game in one way. There were clear and precise turning points in an otherwise seesaw slug fest, with only six total penalties, a mere two by the yellow flag challenged Niners. First, there was the phantom first down awarded to QB Colin Kaepernick that kept alive a 93 yard drive for the Niners’ lone TD on the day, instead of having to punt from deep in their own territory, trailing 10-6.

Then there was the gutsy 4th down fake punt from their own 29 yard line in the 4th quarter, executed perfectly by everybody’s favorite whipping boy Craig Dahl. Which led to the incredible, gravity-defying, body torque twistofantastico 29 yard catch by Brandon Lloyd on a Kaepernick Hail Mary heave that bailed the team out of a 3rd and ten from their own 32. That catch led to the go ahead FG.

And no Andy Reid game seems complete without some stupefying brain-fart, which came late in the 4th quarter with Phil Dawson set to attempt another reeeeeally long FG. But the Chiefs sent out 12 guys on defense and the 49ers got a first down, which allowed them to grind the clock down to the two minute warning, strip the Chiefs of all their time outs, and give Dawson a nice little chip shot FG — his 5th on the day.

Meanwhile, back in ordinary mode, the two-headed monster at tailback — Frank Gore and Carlos Hyde, plowed through the Chiefs for 150 yards on 28 carries. This is how you get a 12 minute time of possession edge and keep your defense rested on a heat sapping day.

Conversely, the team continued its almost pathological inability to score TDs from the Red Zone. They converted 1 out 4 times in this game. This is how you dominate a game and TOP, yet find yourself needing a defensive stand in the fourth quarter to preserve a narrow victory. Change two of Dawson’s 5 FGs into TDs, and you’ve got a 30-17 lead at the two minute warning in the fourth quarter — a far more accurate depiction of the difference between these two teams.

One final comic interlude note. Former 49er first round pick AJ Jenkins, starting his first game in his third season, produced one run for -2 yards, and caught one pass for 3 yards, bringing his net contribution for the day to ONE yard. Time to look ahead to a life after football, AJ.

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124 comments on “49ers 22, Chiefs 17
  1. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    IMO, a play caller either has IT or he doesn’t. I think play calling is more instinctive than acquired. Of course some has to be acquired as there is always a matriculation process, even though the core is instinctive. Some have a rhythm to their play calling and some don’t. I’m starting to think Greg Roman will never have a rhythm.

  2. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    There were two drives motoring along rhythmically when Roman decided to dial up a trick play. Both plays failed and the rhythm went bye-bye.

  3. robNo Gravatar says:

    Roman is trying REALLY hard. He’s just not succeeding as well as we’d like 😉

  4. robNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49E was right on with a post about our three and outs. We have to settle for WAY too many feild goals when we get in the redzone! I was sitting at the bar and just before half i’m telling this niner fan exactly what’s going to happen. All they could say was NO DONT SAY THAT. lol
    Run into 8 or even 9 in the box twice then pass on 3rd and long and settle for a feild goal …
    never seen that beforr

  5. robNo Gravatar says:

    PHILL had an excellent post too! Imho harbaugh is in search of bucks and the yorks are cheap. Negotiations might be being played out in the media! The big point is this., if the team doesn’t like jim, how did we eliminate all the penalties so effectively this week! !!!

  6. robNo Gravatar says:

    Oh well it’s off to work. I’ll be back later for more 🙂

  7. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t know if any of you saw this hilarious gif, but Chiefs’ LB #55 has some ‘splaining to do when his teammates watch the film.


  8. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    This was another game we would have lost if Lemoneir was still starting. Lynch did a solid job again. IMO, we would be undefeated right now if Lynch had been getting this playing time from game one. It’s not that he is a star it is that we got the needed pressure on the QB so he couldn’t sit back in the pocket and pick us apart like the Bears and Cards QB did. Making a QB throw early is not as good as a sack but it is necessary. Kap has had to throw early all year. This last game he had a couple pockets that gave him time and he did good. Then there were times he was under siege, usually it was the Sardine Can formations.

    Maybe we should come up with a name for Roman’s herky-jerky play calling. I nominate The Roman Rhythm! Or how about The Red Zone Road Block!

  9. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, it’s the story of the red zone offense. One bad play = FG. I thought Boldin use3d to be a QB. That was the ugliest pass I’ve seen since Try Smith was here. They can’t overcome an incomplete pass or 5 yard penalty.

    The Arrhythmic Method?

  10. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    1st and 10 from the 19 turns into a 54 yard FG.

    Yeah, nice to be on the receiving end of a couple hometown calls.

  11. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    ROB! Yeah, there are a number of possible sources for all this thrash. Not least of all is Jim’s agent.

    Funny thing is, people rip Deion for saying what he said about the locker room, but believe him when he says Crabs wasn’t the source. You can’t believe one without the other.

    Or the fact that the Harbaugh trade hinged upon Harbaugh’s wife not wanting to leave Cali. Folks happily point that out but don’t realize that, because of that fact, there actually WAS a discussion about trading Harbaugh. Everyone was involved. The front office, Harbaugh, and his agent.

    In other words, we have the Mark Jackson situation here. FIrst Warrior coach in 21 years to win 50 games and go back-to-back in the playoffs. Front office friction and he’s gone. And I guarantee you Harbaugh will not stay here as a lame duck coach. No way in hell. Does he want more power over personnel decisions? Money? Who knows? The point being, this thrash is very real. Much of it self-generated BY Harbaugh. For the very purpose of rallying the troops. He ENJOYS the turmoil. He has said that on numerous occasions.

  12. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Wow talk about throwing stuff against the wall and seeing what sticks. A few days ago it was the front office that was generating this and now it’s Harbaugh and his agent?
    Did the source change your mind? How does this work in your world? The coach puts out that he has lost his locker room and the players are turning on him. How does this conspiracy theory benefit Harbaugh?
    Wearing that tinfoil hat and looking for a scenario that fits your narrative?

  13. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    They consulted Harbaugh’s wife about the trade. Is she lying as well?

  14. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Wow did you hear Sarah Harbaugh say that?
    If she didn’t say it then she’s not lying.
    You just love to run with rumors and gossip.
    Is your life based on innuendo?

  15. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Are you always this stupid, Bullit? Or are you really trying to be a moron? Do I have to hold your hand through the machinations going on here?

    Everyone, including you, called the Harbaugh trade stories utter hyperbole and bullshit. The fact that Harbaugh’s wife was consulted on the deal means what? That is was fake? No, it means that both sides were involved in the trade, and when it got out, no one knew how to spin it other than to deny it, then grudgingly acknowledge it way after the fact.

    You yourself called Deion’s locker room talk bullshit, but when Deion said the source wasn’t Crabs, you giddily crowed that Crabs wasn’t the source of the shit you didn’t believe anyway? Got it. Which is it? Deion’s lying about the locker room? Or Crabs isn’t the source of the talk about the locker room? You can’t have it both ways.

    What Harbaugh is floating is the fact he wants either more money or more power over personnel decisions. The trade talk obviously told him something of how the front office feels about him. Beyond that is anyone’s guess.

    But to think this is all from the media is idiocy. The media didn’t engineer the trade. The media didn’t engineer the fact that Harbaugh went to Duke (or wherever) to secretly work out Peyton Manning, and then lie to his team about it.

  16. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The story about Sarah Harbaugh is another rumor.
    In your world you seem to want to use one rumor to support another rumor. Your tin foil hat isn’t on straight Chuck.

  17. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    So this is ALL about the media having nothing better to do than to make up 15 different stories about the 49ers, and attribute them to 15 different sources.


  18. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and flies like a duck, it’s obviously a squirrel.

    Your powers of observation are keenly dull.

  19. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Because you seem to be one of the few morons that believes this and you just won’t let it go.
    As I said show me some solid proof or come up with a reliable source.
    You can’t and therefore have BUTKIS.
    If you paid attention there are actually at most 2 stories that spawned this and not the 15 that you think are out there.

  20. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Jed York on Jay Glazer’s report:
    “That’s categorically not true. Jim’s our coach.”

  21. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    The real point is, none of this has anything to do with THIS season.

  22. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    No, it doesn’t Skeebs. But do you think the players might like to know what next season holds? Harbaugh screams all – in all the time. But if he ain’t all – in, how does he sell it to the team? Kaepernick just signed a big deal partly contingent on Harbaugh being his coach for the foreseeable future.

    Yeah, he’s using this shit to galvanize the team. Maybe because there were problems beforehand that needed addressing. I don’t profess to know, but again, the sheer number of things coming up leads me to believe this front office isn’t going to keep him.

    All I’ve been saying is that this much thrash cannot be strictly a media-driven deal. Sure, they glom on and beat this shit to death. But it doesn’t change the facts that the team was involved with Cleveland to trade Harbaugh, and they flatly denied it. Which turned out to be a lie. Then you have the contract talks that haven’t come to pass.

    If it was all peace love and granola, you’d think they would have been able to work out a deal.

  23. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    One of the few? You are daft Bullit.

    It’s Bupkus, you simpleton. You can’t even insult me correctly.

    So, it’s my job as a fan to go all Rockford Files with this?

    Your lunacy is astounding.

  24. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, Jay Glazer isn’t no Neon Deion. He’s a fairly respected writer/talking head/wonk who wouldn’t just be lobbing bullshit grenades without some kind of factual basis.

    Like I said, ignore this at your own peril. When this season ends and the bullshit gets deeper and deeper, and Harbaugh ends up in Oakland (his wife doesn[‘t want to leaeve the Bay Area, I heard) just remember that your fingers were in your ears, and you were going ‘lalalalalalalalalalala.’

    They’d better have a good idea of who they want to replace ol’ Jimbo. Because this very well could turn into the fiasco that was the Dennis Erickson era.

  25. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Mike Post wrote the Rockford Files Theme:


  26. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Funny, I ran across an old Rockford files last night on some obscure station.

    Loved Rockfish. Great show. Apparently they spent tons of money crashing, rebuilding, and crashing that turd-brown Firebird.

  27. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Front office!


    Deletable post? Jeesus. Way to quash people’s commentary, Skeebs.

    What a joke.

  28. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Goddamnit! It happened again. 15 posts go away. I refresh they are still gone. I reopen the thing, and they’re gone. I post something, and they come back.

  29. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca- Same thing happens to me sometimes.

  30. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    It might be the cache plug-in that helps speed up refreshes. I’ll uninstall it and see if either the problem goes away or the refreshes seem too slow.

  31. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, something weird is going on. This is all text. I wouldn’t think the refresh rate would be hampered by that.

    Now if we start posting music videos again . . .

    My daughter was excited as hell to see John Paul Jones playing with Dave Rawlings at the Hardly Strictly Bluegrass show yesterday.


  32. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Gonna have to go with her one of these years.

  33. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    How are our OL and DL doing?: Courtesy of Jack Hammer at 49erswebzone = NF and Berger will appreciate this. Staley our best OL, Boone not so much. Lynch and Cowboy best on the DL

    49ers line grades courtesy of ProFootball Focus

    Joe Staley = +7.3, +2.1 pass block, +4.9 run block
    Mike Iupati = +1.5, -1.1 pass block, +3.4 run block
    Daniel Kilgore = +.4, +.8 pass block, -.5 run block
    Alex Boone = -3.0, -3.1 pass block, -.1 run block
    Jonathan Martin = -1.2, -1.9 pass block, +.4 run block

    Ray McDonald = +.6, -.5 pass rush, 1.0 run
    Ian Williams = -.5, -.3 pass rush, -.3 run
    Justin Smith = +2.9, -1.2 pass rush, +4.0 run
    Ahmad Brooks = -1.8, -.1 pass rush, -.4 run
    Aaron Lynch = +2.2, +.8 pass rush, +1.3 run

    * Alex Boone has given up a sack each of the last 3 weeks, to go along with 6 quarterback hurries over that time.

    BTW (phil here) Jr Conehead at the P-D is losing his regulars as many are commenting on Jacks articles at 49erswebzone. Not surprising

  34. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Thanks for the Week 5 grades, Phil. Here is your format with the cumulative grades through week 5 to compare, for your interest.

    49ers grades courtesy of ProFootball Focus

    Joe Staley = +6.1, -0.4 pass block, +6.7 run block
    Mike Iupati = +5.2, -5.0 pass block, +10.2 run block
    Daniel Kilgore = +2.1, -1.3 pass block, +2.9 run block
    Alex Boone = -7.5, -5.7 pass block, -2.6 run block
    Jonathan Martin = -5.1, -0.9 pass block, -2.9 run block

    Ray McDonald = +4.6, -1.1 pass rush, +4.8 run def
    Ian Williams = +6.5, +3.7 pass rush, +2.4 run def
    Justin Smith = +10.7, +1.0 pass rush, +9.3 run def
    Ahmad Brooks = -8.4, -5.0 pass rush, -0.7 run def
    Aaron Lynch = +5.3, +3.3 pass rush, +1.1 run def

  35. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Ripley’s Believe It Or Not

    The Rams have 1 sack for 4 yards. That their SEASON total.

  36. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Jed York addresses the BS on the Rich Eisen Show basically saying there is no truth to said rumors. That’s on the record and not from some unknown source.

    Guess what??? Rich Eisen works for NFL Network.


  37. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Niner stout D held the Chefs to just 9 yards in the 4th quarter yesterday.

  38. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Saw a video crawl suggesting Mike Holmgren has, (or will) talk to Mark Davis regarding the open HC seat in Oaktown.

    I’ve often wondered how his relationship is with SF these days.
    Having a WCO-minded HC wouldn’t bother me in the slightest.

    If only Jim and Greg could find a handle on some Offensive passing creativity we might be unstoppable.

  39. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Holmgren will be 67 years old next season. How many more years and how much time can he devote to a job that’s a grind?

  40. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    It wasn’t really that much work for our defense. It was more our two clock draining offensive drives and Alex Smith helping us out with only one completion for 9 yards, two incomplete passes and an interception. All the defense needed to do was stuff Charles’ attempt up the middle and for Cox to tackle Bowe before he converted. Oh, and Cox catch that ball Alex threw to him.

  41. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    True Bullit.
    Holmgren apparently has the itch to return to the sideline however, which suggests he feels sufficiently rested to make a go of it however.

    Interesting report nonetheless.

  42. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear49er, I’m sure you’ve seen the report already.
    Henery is history in the Motor City.

    No shock there.

  43. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hey NJ49er, somebody’s got to make those throws consistently, too.

  44. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, we knew he wouldn’t survive that performance.

  45. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Percy Harvin has had 3 TDs taken back by penalties tonight.

  46. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Replay can be good. Wilson, on 3rd down, crossed way over the LOS, came back, and completed a big gain pass. No flag. Uh, refs, that’s a no-no. Challenged.

  47. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Lynch fumbles it away and not called. Game over.

  48. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Rufus, the Seahawks are such a different team on the road. Still get all the calls though.

  49. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Pretty funny from Niners Nation:

    The Seahawks and Washington are in the middle of a surprisingly competitive affair, and there have been a few questionable calls on both sides. The Seahawks have had three separate Percy Harvin touchdowns called back, and then we saw Seattle benefit from a close call in which (Percy Harvin?) Wilson appeared to run across the line of scrimmage. It turns out you have to get your whole body across the line of scrimmage, and Wilson only get part of his body (confirmed on replay).

    We’ve had plenty of complaining about officiating this season, and former San Francisco 49ers wide receiver Dwight Clark might have summed it up best for all of us:

    Dwight Clark ✔ @DwightC87

    Have I mentioned that I hate refs. #MNF

  50. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Headline on NN:

    Cox comes up big again

  51. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Rob loves him some Cox too Phil!!!!!!!!!!!
    Probably even more when it comes up BIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  52. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Ok that last comment of mine was pretty bad so here’s the make up call:

    Thanks NF, I was wondering if Hammers stats (PFF) were the 5th game = Chiefs or the season total and your info clarified that.

    So looking at the 2 sets of PFF grades side by side last game and total for season looks like this for our O:

    Joe Staley = +7.3, +2.1 pass block, +4.9 run block 5th game
    Joe Staley = +6.1, -0.4 pass block, +6.7 run block Season

    Mike Iupati = +1.5, -1.1 pass block, +3.4 run block 5th
    Mike Iupati = +5.2, -5.0 pass block, +10.2 run block Season

    Daniel Kilgore = +.4, +.8 pass block, -.5 run block 5th
    Daniel Kilgore = +2.1, -1.3 pass block, +2.9 run block Season

    Alex Boone = -3.0, -3.1 pass block, -.1 run block 5th
    Alex Boone = -7.5, -5.7 pass block, -2.6 run block Season

    Jonathan Martin = -1.2, -1.9 pass block, +.4 run block 5th
    Jonathan Martin = -5.1, -0.9 pass block, -2.9 run block Season

    Comparing the two for each player you can see Staley has great stats and was above his average in pass blocking last game.
    -Iupati was more balanced in run and pass blocking and improved greatly in pass pro
    -Kilgore also improved in pass pro as NF & Tim Ryan mentioned during the Chiefs game
    -Even Boone was less bad improving in pass pro and run blocking. Think he needed TC?
    -J Martin also improved in run blocking and his overall 5th game grade is a big improvement over season average.

    I’ll do same for the DL. Having said that I didn’t see the game just highlights due to coconut internet glitches so I can’t say much about how these guys looked. Overall I’d say we’re improving on the OL with Boone and Martin esp. needing to. No wonder we run left

  53. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Bad NJ, bad, lol

  54. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    In the Pro Football Focus grading system 0.0 = a neutral grade, neither good nor bad = doing his job. A negative # indicates degrees of substandard performance and positive # = degrees of superior performance

  55. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Ray McDonald = +.6, -.5 pass rush, 1.0 run 5th game
    Ray McDonald = +4.6, -1.1 pass rush, +4.8 run def Season

    Ian Williams = -.5, -.3 pass rush, -.3 run 5th
    Ian Williams = +6.5, +3.7 pass rush, +2.4 run def Season

    Justin Smith = +2.9, -1.2 pass rush, +4.0 run 5th
    Justin Smith = +10.7, +1.0 pass rush, +9.3 run def Season

    Ahmad Brooks = -1.8, -.1 pass rush, -.4 run 5th
    Ahmad Brooks = -8.4, -5.0 pass rush, -0.7 run def Season

    Aaron Lynch = +2.2, +.8 pass rush, +1.3 run 5th
    Aaron Lynch = +5.3, +3.3 pass rush, +1.1 run def Season

    Cowboy is our best O Lman as we already know and the stats bear that out.
    Ray Mac has very good stats and improved in his pass rush vs Chiefs.
    Ian W has great season stats and played effectively despite ankle injury
    Brooks improved in both pass rush and run defense as he needs to.
    Lynch is a beast with 3rd best stats on our DL

    The DL is rounding into shape as seen in stats and on the field from last 2 games. Add Aldon in there we’re going to be tough for Os to move against.

  56. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Hey NJ- Not sure how Rob feels about this but I wonder how you think we’ll do on the road against the Rams next week?

  57. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil I always consider Division games a tougher matchup regardless of record.
    Division opponents know you better than anyone, simply because of the frequency of matchups.

    I say we’re the better team and should win however.

    See how healthy we are by the end of the week.
    This QB Austin Davis has some attitude about him.
    Nothing like the laid back approach we’re used to from Bradford.

    We shouldn’t have to deal with Chris Long for this one either.
    They still have a good D front though.

  58. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The way our OLine has been performing lately, the rookie Aaron Donald could present a problem.
    I liked him coming out of Pitt myself.
    Kid can get after the QB.

  59. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Thanks NJ. And I have a gif(t) for your fond memories of Jimi which is the 3rd GIF on this page.

    Enjoy! : )


  60. robNo Gravatar says:

    IMHO we’re going to crush the lambs on MNF!!!

  61. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yep Rob I’m calling for Niners to win by 13 vs Rams

  62. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Phil- One thing your D-line stats don’t tell is how much the improvement in Brooks and McD due to Lynch getting more attention on the other side since he took over for Lemoneir. IOW, since Lemoneir was a non factor who could always be blocked one on one, more resources could be diverted to Brooks and McD. Lynch should be getting the attention of some of those resources allowing the other side of the line to be more effective. Those numbers you provided gives that theory credibility.

  63. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like Jim Schwartz cementing his image as an asshole:

    “Golden Tate on Jim Schwartz being carried off the field (at his own request): ‘That’s a total douche move’.”

  64. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Schwartz could use a little Rec-tite:


  65. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yes I remember your making that point earlier when you were calling for Lynch (somebody, anybody) to help with the pass rush. Looks like you nailed it = replacing Lemonier with Aaron L has made the others on the DL more effective. Love it

  66. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    On O 150 yds rushing ain’t too shabby between Frank and Carlos as I recall Walsh saying something like “We need at least 80 on ground to keep the opponents D honest”. You don’t get 150 rushing if your OL is weak

  67. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    When did that happen Skeebs?

  68. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, it was after the Bills, where Schwartz is current DC, beat his old team, the Lions.

  69. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    If our O-line can’t protect Kap in this game, then kiss getting protection in the Seahawks games goodbye.

    I mean, seriously, the Rams and all their high draft picks on their D-line and they’re on pace to get an undisputed league record 4 season sacks???

    OTOH, I was laughing at the Rams after Bradford’s latest injury for not drafting Bortles or Bridgewater. Austin Davis helped blow the Vikings game but still has a QBR of 103.5. Not bad for a rook.

  70. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    *Cowboys game

    Davis’ ugly pick 6 in the 4th completed the Dallas comeback from a 21-0 early deficit.

  71. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    He was learning at the feet of his mentor, Tony Romo.

  72. robNo Gravatar says:


  73. robNo Gravatar says:

    Cox leads the league in “passes defensed” with 10!

  74. robNo Gravatar says:

    Not too shabby for cox imo! That being said, anybody hear anything about tremaine brock? Our secondary iss looking better and better with brock, gulliver, reid, bethea, starting. Cox, cook and ward add excellent depth too!!!

  75. robNo Gravatar says:

    I was worried about having to replace what for all intents and purposes were our two starting corners last year. Having to replace brown and rogers seemed tough enough, but to have so many new starters in the secondary..
    We’re comig together nicely!

  76. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yes, Cox is playing bigger and harder than expected.

  77. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Cox had a big hole to fill and he rose to the challenge.

  78. robNo Gravatar says:

    Omg lol i guess what you guys are sayong is that it was a hard job but cox was up to the task … so to speak!

  79. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    NJ would be proud.

    Here I thought Lloyd was soaring to new heights but looks like Cox coming up bigger

  80. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Easy Rob!!!!!!!!
    All this talk about Cox getting to 10 could make his HEAD swell :-D!!!!!!!!!

  81. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The 49ers All STD-Porn Team is coming together nicely.
    VD, Crabs, & Cox will soon be gathering in the Jimmie Ward 😀
    When they’re Aldon, they’ll have to find the Carrier and Hyde their Johnson’s.

  82. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    We got you covered like a Jimmie hat.


  83. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Jimmie needs a slicker Chuck – Can’t be too safe 😀

  84. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Once we get that Roman Rhythm going we can run into a Red Zone Road Block at any moment. I know this is not true 100% but often the Roman Rhythm moves the ball between the 20s with 3 and 4 wide and then goes Sardine Can and turns into the Red Zone Road Block.

  85. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Funny thing is, remember when the Niners had Alex as a starter, and Kappy was brought in as a change of pace? All that did was kill drives.

    Someone give Roman a Pacemaker.

    How bout them Giants?

  86. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Much like the trick plays last weekend.

    Giants AND Niners both on their way to St Looie.

  87. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Roman + Rhythm = Oxymoron Berger.

    More like the GRo Moan Offense.

  88. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck that’s been my contention all along with this Offense.
    Instead of developing something that resembles an NFL caliber passing attack, they resort to gadget plays.

    Very NCAA-ish.

    I truly wonder if Harbaugh has it in his DNA to get beyond the power running game.

  89. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    There is nothing wrong with running the ball. I think it is the best way to win. The question becomes, how is the best way to run the ball. IMO, the Sardine Can Offense is the least consistent way to run the ball. It is too one dimensional and is very difficult to pass out of. Because of it’s predictability the defense can read keys all day necessitating the need for gadget plays to throw the defense off. For the same reason I do not like 5 wide. It is too one dimensional. Three and four WR sets make it harder for a defense to know whether an offense is going to run or pass. IMO, not buying into this philosophy is the biggest reason we stall in the red zone.

  90. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, they seem to be able to travel between the 20s pretty well. They just shrivel up in the red zone.

  91. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    For those who do not know what the Sardine Can Offense is, also called the SCO, it is offensive play calling based on formations so tight they can fit into a sardine can. A typical SCO formation would be 2 TEs and 2 RBs. It could even be a 21 or 12 package. With those two packages look at the splits between the O-linemen. If their feet are about 2 inches apart from each other it is a SCO formation. The problem with these formations is the D can load the box and outnumber any blocking scheme that is designed. It is basically Lee vs Grant in the Civil War. Lee had the better strategy and Grant had Lee outnumbered. Grant won.

    To extrapolate that to the 49ers, Roman has all of these ingenious running plays based out of SCO formations but he is just outnumbered. Every couple of games he breaks a long run but usually he punts and says defense please save my ass. For him the Appomattox Court House lies in the red zone where his sardine cans are piling up.

  92. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:


    By my charting there were 45 plays using 21 or 22 personnel. O-line splits were basically the same for 11 or 22 personnel. None of them used 2″ spilts.

    The KC D had the DEs over the O tackles and the safeties stayed deep for the most part even when we went to 21 or 22 packages almost exclusively in the 4th Q. And we passed out of 21 or 22 packages about 15 times.

  93. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Oh no! My man Osgood’s gone again. Monday Harbaugh called him the Niners best ST guy. Talk about the Kiss of Death!

  94. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    All 22 film analysis of running game against Chefs.
    A couple of plays are from 2 TE sets.

  95. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Nice analysis Bullit thanks. I’ve bookmarked that site for future reference. Niners do have an effective and complex run game for sure

  96. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Niners with a simplistic passing attack? Harbaugh nothing but a glorified run game coordinator? Niners use only 5 WRs not 3-4 WRs? Gro a Neanderthal with no clue on passing game?


    Then explain these plays. Yeh we lost the game but won on these kinds of passing plays which are sure to be integrated into the Niners attack in future. We are not as simple as some in the blognoscenti would have you believe.

    Better pass pro will only help our passing game as well.

  97. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Q & A with Aaron Lynch and another video of some more of his highlights:


    More playing time and more publicity for my man the underdog Aaron L

  98. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    There you go NoFear only criticizing with no solutions again. If you ever offered a solution or an insight we would all faint.

    Since you are fast to call others out why do you think we stall in the red zone? I nailed it. Since it is worthless info for you, you should shove your all 22 up your butt where it belongs.

  99. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, those pesky facts are a bitch to deal with when you’re peddling bullshit.

    Your post which I replied to is nothing but criticism and the reason for my response is it’s made up criticism. You’ve posted nothing but a constant stream of mostly made up criticism for months based on your imagination and your emotional response to what you perceive. No facts, just emotion.

    My post was only a criticism of making up bullshit and constantly repeating it as if it was factual. And I see by your response that facts to you are like water on Dorothy’s wicked witch of the west.

    Kaepernick is too inconsistent as we’ve all seen in this year’s games. It’s hard for the coaches to trust his instincts and his short passing game with the game on the line.

    He’s also too quick to pull the ball down and run. And when he runs he quits looking for receivers even when he’s running to a spot where one is wide open in front of him.

    The only thing I see to do is practice more timing, touch and accuracy with the receivers especially on short routes and put more plays into the game plan as he is able to run them well enough the coaches can include them in the game plan.

    We’ve added plenty enough spread concepts this year to know that that isn’t going to win games by itself. Protections, and protectors, have to improve, Kaepernick has to stay in the pocket longer and move where his protection knows he’s going and second and third progressions and check downs need to be utilized more.

  100. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s a good analysis of Kaps development and his performance this season:


    “Kaepernick appears to be looking at the game with new eyes. Last season, he left open receivers all over the field after checking his primary target and then deciding to run his way into a sack or a gain. This year, Kaepernick is getting to second and even third reads, despite spotty pass protection.”

    “So he can run; he can fire a pass; he can run and then throw; he can throw off balance; he can move in the pocket re-set and then throw. The question is, which of these varied options should he use on a given play?

    That’s why it will likely take longer for him to develop as a quarterback than say, Andy Dalton or Alex Smith. Kaepernick simply has a much more expansive skill set.”

  101. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hey Phil,

    I haven’t read a good Kevin Lynch article in a while. He’s pretty good at player critique when he’s not blinded by personal bias as he was with Alex. He sounds especially bright when he agrees with me, too.

  102. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Lol NF. The focus seems to getting back to the Team after the media (national) hysteria focusing on their obsession on Niner leadership. Local writers really stayed out of this round fortunately.

    So yeah improving the O is up: OL woes ok on run game, need to improve more on pass pro. Kaep improving in decision making. But the earlier articles show that Jimi/GRo DO have the schemes to run a professional passing attack. Will take more experience in games and practice to get up to speed.

    Play selection, Red Zone issues well that’s additional

  103. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    More praise for the job C Daniel Kilgore did on NT Dontari Poe last week:


    “And The Game Ball Goes To…
    There are a host of players that deserve recognition for their performance last week…but in my estimation, one rose head and shoulders above the rest. Frank Gore? Aaron Lynch? Perrish Cox? All played well…but not as well as Daniel Kilgore.

    On paper, Dontari Poe should have gotten the better of Kilgore. Easily. On the field, not so much. For his efforts last week, Pro Football Focus rated him at +1.4. Frank Gore’s two longest runs of the day (13 and 14 yards) were run off Center, and for the game, Gore averaged 6 yards per carry up the gut. All of that starts with Kilgore.

    His matchup with Poe was one that most experts (myself included) expected him to lose. Poe is bigger (by about 35 pounds), stronger and faster. And yet for the entirety of the second half, Kilgore consistently blew him off the ball. By the time the 4th quarter rolled around, it looked like Poe would rather be somewhere (anywhere) else than lined up over the 49ers new starting Center. That might not make him the 49ers MVP, but it played a huge part in the 49ers success last week…and that gets him the game ball.”

  104. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    So NoFear you discount Kevin Lynch because you didn’t agree with him. Nothing new there. Maybe you should listen to Phil Simms who was pointing out on his telestrater during our last telecast that Kap was doing a great job looking for 2nd and 3rd receivers while pointing out that our receivers were not getting open. Seems your All 22 investment is just a waste of money. Or could it just be you invest in that so you can better sell your biases?

  105. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Not sure what has changed with the line, but the pass pro coming from up the middle has improved. Maybe it’s Kilgore getting used to the job, or him communicating, but the pass protection was better in the KC game than any other, despite the 3 sacks.

  106. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    It looked to me that Kap was under a lot of pressure about half the time and had some clean pockets about half the time. I’m not a numbers stat guy selling biases, I’m just saying what it seemed like what was going on while watching the game on TV.

  107. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, except for the bad series by J Mart (2 sacks in a row given up), the pass pro was better than in any other game except the Dallas game. Half the time under duress is better than 2/3s of the time!

    This is strictly by eye test rather than the numbers. Which according to whatever someone posted last week, J Mart is our best pass blocker?

  108. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca- Be careful what you post, the Central Scrutinizer is lining up numbers now to prove us wrong. He isn’t sure what he saw while watching the game so he needs to find cozy numbers to tell him what he saw. At that point he can be conjure up some numbers to obfuscate and tell us what we saw instead of what we actually saw. Haven’t we all had managers just like that.

  109. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Post bullshit and someone may call you on it? Yeah, things are tough all over, Berger.

    Don’t blame the game tape if it doesn’t fit your bullshit narrative. Maybe it’s the Berger bullshit narrative that’s the problem.

    Turns out the high school football playing tough guy is just another big whiny baby. Anyone surprised?

  110. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Staley is our best pass blocker even after his poor start. That tells you a lot about our pass pro this year. Thanks to PFF and NF we see Staleys season stats in run blocking and pass pro are:

    Joe Staley = +7.3, +2.1 pass block, +4.9 run block 5th game
    Joe Staley = +6.1, -0.4 pass block, +6.7 run block Season

    The Chiefs game stats are on the first line, season cumulative stats on 2nd line. Anything above 0.0 in Pro Football Focus is good with bigger number better. Staley had pass blocking grade of +2.1 per PFF in last game which is substantially better than his season average of -0.4. (Best on team).

    Our third best pass blocker is Daniel Kilgore with a season grade of -1.3, not a good grade really despite his recent pass blocking grade of +0.8, a positive, in Chiefs.

    Jonathan Martin has 2nd best pass pro grade on team trailing Staley with -0.9 grade for season. His run blocking grade drags his overall down quite a bit.

    Our two worst pass blockers are Iupati and Boone with miserable grades of -5.0 and -5.7 respectively. Iupati overall is far superior to Boone as his run blocking is an NFL best +10.2 this season

  111. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Jack Hammer strikes again with a discussion on pass protection:


    “The San Francisco 49ers offensive line has been widely regarded as one of the best in the NFL since Jim Harbaugh took over in 2011. That has definitely been true when it comes to run blocking, but pass blocking has been a different story of late. Through the first five weeks of the season ProFootballFocus has the 49ers ranked 27th in pass blocking.

    When you break down the numbers it’s not pretty. The 49ers offensive line has given up pressure on 53 or 181 pass plays in 2014, or 29%”

    Hammer as a former pro (?) player is good at understanding many of the nuances of the game.

  112. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yes the numbers back up the contention that last game our pass pro was better than our dubious season efforts so far. And yep every player improved but J Martin. Anthony Davis absence is a big deal for us…

    I’m not normally a stat guy but with no video last week this is the best I’ve got to offer

    Our problems in pass blocking, Red Zone, clock management really are a matter of player execution from what I hear/read/see. As we have said “It’s a work in progress” but there IS progress in OL, QB, DL, DBs.

  113. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Never seen that one before. Colts kick coverage team way out wide and Vinitieri dinks one 10 1/2 yds up the middle, playing “Follow The Bouncing Ball”. Texans have nobody in the middle. Bee-youtiful onside.

  114. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    It was so well done at first I thought he muffed the kick, then I noticed nobody anywhere near Vinitieri or the ball while he played with himself.

  115. robNo Gravatar says:

    Quint from JAWS just got my attention! Not only did the big daddy of all sharks just turn up but he was alive and kickin! !! A 35 foot shark was just caught off pakistan! It was thought extinct for 20 million years!

  116. robNo Gravatar says:

    We’re gonna need a bigger boat! !!

  117. robNo Gravatar says:

    The other thing quint told me was that kilgore is getting the hang of it, boone is getting up to strength, iupati and staley kick asss and davis will be back soon!

  118. robNo Gravatar says:

    The best part for me is seeing kilgore doing betyer and better! This of course is the key! !!

  119. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Extinct for 20 million years? Man that is one old shark.

    Yeah Rob the OL is getting better. We sure miss A Davis though.

  120. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- You need to call Phil Simms out too. His analysis does not match yours. So let me see, I need decide if NoFear or Simms is correct. Tough decision but I’ll go with Simms.

  121. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Phil- I could have told you the run blocking is getting better and the pass blocking still sucks just by watching the game. I can even give you one more tid-bit the numbers can’t quantify and NoFear will call bullshit. Although much of the problems are on the O-line, some of the problem with our pass pro is poor play calling.

  122. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    It is nice to see the numbers matching up to what some of us have already been able to say. Nice job Phil.

  123. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Bergs sometimes (often) the plays are undermined by poor execution as you say and sometimes the plays are called that break up the flow of the O on a particular drive. You know about this too.

    On the drive when Boldin tried to throw on 1st down to the EZ that was a high risk high reward play call with poor execution. Harbaugh said he could have coached Boldin to run if the pass not there. Incomplete, on Boldin (Harbs?) But Roman? Another play on that drive was foiled when TE Carrier and Boone blew their blocks and Kap was sacked/stopped. Good play call bad execution. 2 guys killed the play = execution. The third down play Kap was guilty of a poor throw = 100% Kap.

    In 4th Q drive in RZ = 1st down B. Miller ran out of his hole and let defender get past to nail Hyde. 2nd down same exact play w/Kap keeping the ball but unblocked Hali makes good play to nail Kap. Play call? Coaching? Dunno. Not execution tho. 3rd down Boldin open again Kap overthrows due to pressure via J Martin @ RT = execution.

    BTW it was Boone not Martin who gave up the 2 consecutive sacks (was it 3 sacks?!). PFF has Martin outplaying Boone too if you can believe it in game 5 and for the season

    Yeah stats are useful but agree don’t think they give a “big picture” view of what’s going on on field.

    Do you have some examples of poor play calling?

  124. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2021 Schedules
09/12: W 49ers 41, Lions 33
09/19: W 49ers 17, Eagles 11
09/26: L Packers 30, 49ers 28
10/03: L Seahawks 28, 49ers 21
10/10: L Cardinals 17, 49ers 10
10/17 BYE
10/24: L Colts 30, 49ers 18
10/31: W 49ers 33, Bears 22
11/07: L Cardinals 31, 49ers 17
11/15: W 49ers 31, Rams 10L
11/21: W 49ers 30, Jaguars 10
11/28: W 49ers 34, Vikings 26
12/05: L Seahawks 30, 49ers 23 12/12 · 10:00 AMCIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 · 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2021 Prognostications
Bullit: 12-5
Grumpy: 13-4
NJ49er: 11-6
Skeebers: 14-3
Winder: 12-5
Rob: 17-0
Spitblood: 0-17