49ers 20, Vikings 3

The 49ers averted the prospect of an 0-16 season Monday night by showing up for the game. The Vikings mistakenly thought it was another pre-season affair and gave Adrian Peterson the night off, while toying with the idea of centering their offense around Teddy Bridgewater. Not a good idea.

Even with the gift of the gaffe, it took the 49ers three quarters to score ten whole points against the feeble Viking defense. The Niner passing attack netted 165 yards and their running game netted 209 yards. With those kind of offensive stats, it won’t be long before the Jed York butt-lickers start up a “Fire Geep Chryst” rant. Right now, they’re presumably just relieved about getting one win.

49er QB Colin Kaepernick drew praise not for his offensive output, but for exhibiting the basic qualities of an NFL quarterback — going through his reads, stepping up in the pocket, etc. These deficiencies have been discussed on this site for quite some time, but always against a backdrop of howling denials and blame-shifting to our dear departed former HC. We’ll see how well this new improved Colin holds up when he faces some real defensive pressure.

RB Carlos Hyde had a superb game, virtually carrying the team on his back, especially in the second half. His backup, Reggie Bush, after an offseason of wondrous potential contributions, got laughed off the field with an ankle owie after his second carry.

Next up, the team travels to Pittsburgh to face an opponent that will more than likely show up for the game ready to play. Especially after the Steelers just went to New England and imitated the Vikings in unpreparedness.

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225 comments on “49ers 20, Vikings 3
  1. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Have not seen the game but some excellent NN articles. That running game was the highlight and reason for optimism this season. Vikings D is not good, despite the hype. Good news is the Steelers D is also bad. Lots of high round picks to fix their front seven has not produced yet.

    DC’s will scheme to throttle the run game. CK took advantage with play action to TE’s. Success of the running game created seperation for his receivers.

    CK was not good in traditional pocket passing, outside of one pass to VD. Unless he can elevate his game, this win will be the highlight of the season just like the Dallas game last year.

    Very fortunate for CK that outside of our division we won’t see great D, including a Sugg-less Ravens. For O niners need to maintain the ZBS Hyde machine all season and hope CK can become an adequate QB.

    Aggressive D will work against weaker QB’s and average or worse olines. We won’t see that much this year. With the schedule CK needs to step up his game.

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Off topic the A’s just called up Barry Zito to take a bow before he retires.

    Also Pablo Sandoval bolted and signed for big money giving the Giant’s the finger.
    Once a fat boy always a mediocre fat boy. Currently batting .248 with 10 HRs and 48 RBI he was worshipped as a superstar by the fanboy. Another guy who always had a cloak of excuses to hide his shortcomings. Will never amount to anything until he drops 30 lbs.

  3. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Per Maicoo Jimmie Ward started the second game of his career last Monday as a nickel back.
    Maiocco blamed the hard to read numbers on the jerseys for the oversight.

  4. robNo Gravatar says:

    well SKEEBERS I must say I was expecting something more positive out of you today . still the same shrill scathing rebuke of all things niners I see . are you still even like this team anymore ?

  5. robNo Gravatar says:

    oops I mean do you still even like this team anymore

  6. robNo Gravatar says:

    im confused
    what’s with the new moderation thing ?

  7. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Sorry, Rob. Just temporary. Trying out some settings to reduce the intense spamming certain fellows are doing to this site. Don’t think you’ll be “moderated” again.

  8. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Fair summary, Outsider. One might expect to hear a bashing of our offense or the fact that we still stink in the red zone from some quarters. Maybe they’re just happy the team didn’t stink it up at home, as they all allowed would be a satisfactory claim to success.

    How far the bar has been lowered!

  9. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    I still want to know what Norv Turner is thinking running a shotgun formation with Teddy Bridgewater and Adrian Peterson. You have to be one dumb SOB to run shotgun with Bridgewater and Peterson. You might do it occasionally with Favre and Peterson, back in the day, but never with Bridgewater and Peterson.

    And besides the fact that it’s just strategically stupid, what about the loss of Peterson’s emotional return? Peterson would have run through a brick wall last Monday night after the grief he’s been put through. I would have given him the ball 30 times and who cares if the team didn’t make first downs initially? Forget Teddy. The point of pounding the rock is that eventually the D wears down and you pop one. And the Vikings also have Asiata and company to help pound the rock.

    I think Norv is losing his marbles. If Norv doesn’t pull his mental game together, the Vikings could find themselves 0-16 because Bridgewater in the gun isn’t winning you anything.

  10. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I’m wondering if Norv had a choice. Lot of discord between Peterson and management last offseason. Maybe there are orders from on high, a la 49ers FO, to minimize Peterson this year.

  11. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Breaking down the Vikings game: Neumanns observations


    -Geep Chryst’s Game Plan
    -Veteran Defenders Lead the Way
    -Jaquiski Tartt
    -Lack of Shot Plays (deep passes)
    -Hyde’s Spin Move
    -3-man Pass Rush
    -Double Stack
    -Jarryd Hayne’s Usage

    Couldn’t get the gifs to load but jpegs came through

  12. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Mangini’s defense stifles Teddy Bridgewater in season opener


    More from David Neumann:

    -“Bridgewater failed to convert a single third or fourth down through the air on Monday night, finishing 3-of–6 for 11 yards and three sacks on 11 drop-backs”.

    -” Though the 49ers coaching staff preached all offseason that they wouldn’t abandon the power runs featured so prominently under the previous regime, they went almost exclusively to the zone-running game in Week 1 and Hyde took full advantage”.

    -“There’s nothing wrong with setting your quarterback up with some easy throws, but you have to be able to complement those plays with throws downfield from the pocket, especially in key situations”

  13. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    2nd Half Coach’s film. If you want to see 1st half it is on previous post.


  14. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    This National Anthem wasn’t shown on the broadcast


  15. robNo Gravatar says:

    well skeebs I think I got caught in the anti flying V multiple post spamming “moderation thing”. lol

  16. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Niners lined up 28 times with “13” personnel.
    That’s 3 tight ends which in the past was labelled in Pyongyang N.K. chapter as SCO and a smash mouth college offense.
    Whatever fits the narrative as the worst critic of the offense is now praising it. What was stone age last year is now new age.

  17. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I see if it works those in Pyongyang suddenly have no problem.
    Never mind about the bitching about spreading out the offense.
    The film doesn’t lie. A lot of the 3 TE sets had a TE in motion and actually lining up in the backfield as a blocking back.
    So all this bluster calling me a liar is funny.

    I can easily reprint a critical post from back in Nov that refutes everything that the apologist is saying now. I’d gladly do that but there would be a nuclear meltdown. Then I would be accused of “gotcha”.

    Someone is doing his flip flop following in the footsteps of his mentor, Chuckles.

  18. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Look at the film and you will see a pistol set with 2 TEs lined up as blockers in the backfield. The film doesn’t lie.

  19. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    It’s a 16 game season but Pyongyang N.K. chapter, Fairyland Blog
    is ready to throw a parade after one game.
    Amusing theater.

  20. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “The 49ers reached an injury settlement with RB Kendall Hunter, source said. He’s now a free agent.”

  21. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs I’ve been having issues reaching your site via IE/Chrome the past several days.
    You mentioned changes?
    Anything related to my recent troubles?

  22. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Anyone interested in knowing more about the new addition, running wide zone/outside zone plays?

    Here’s how they did it in “the old days” from the horse’s mouth. Note: The more Alex Gibbs you listen to, the more you hear him say. It’ll make sense when you listen to him s’plainin’ his system.


  23. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Pitt game will tell a lot about this D. Big Ben ain’t Teddy. Will he have time to get the passing game going.

    The O with CK has a lot to prove. This season will hinge on supposedly powerful passing attacks against our D. Who is real. Norv’s squad turned out to be a ghost.

    Great game for Sunday. Consistent winning demands more out of CK. Is dummy up to it. Homer blog thinks so.

  24. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Not to my knowledge, NJ. But my knowledge could be insufficient. Let me know if problem continues.

  25. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Are you getting any kind of message or error code, NJ?

  26. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    For the second week in a row Peyton Manning is getting th crap beat out of him taking sacks and hits.
    Manning has been sacked twice already and hit a bunch of times.

    The Ravens sacked and hit him over 10 times last week.
    At this rate the 39 year old is not going to last the season.
    Seems like the team with the best Oline/QB combo will dominate.

  27. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Broncos really miss Ryan Clady. Young guy was best LT in rookie year. Injuries take its toll. I believe this is his 2nd IR for entire year.

  28. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    It seems like with injuries and players going elsewhere there aren’t that many elite Olines anymore.

    Lot’s of teams with patchwork lines especially playoff teams.

    Teams are spending their big dollars elsewhere.

  29. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Exactly. Quarterback, edge rusher & shutdown corner. All the rest can fight for what’s left. If a team doesn’t have those three key players on their roster they are looking for them.

    One of the reasons for going to the zone blocking I’m sure.

  30. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs I’ll confirm the error over the weekend if it continues.
    Server/permission related as I recall.
    Possibly a 404, I can’t be sure as I’m not on the network at this point.

  31. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    My God. Did anyone watch that game tonight? Peyton Manning is Willie Mays with the Mets. Peyton Manning is done, and was done last year but Manning didn’t know it. I guess the Broncos and the NFL both wanted a Peyton Manning swan song. And I don’t have any problem with that. He deserves it.

    Tonight, Phil Simms and Jim Nance were completely masking and defending all the Manning misques. Manning missed pass after pass. Manning can barely throw the ball 20 yards anymore. I can’t believe more people aren’t talking about it. Defenses will start to catch on.

    There is a huge, huge fork sticking out of the back of Peyton Manning. You can actually see it from space. He’s a class guy and a tremendous football ambassador, but let’s tell it like it is…. the man is finished.

  32. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I heard about it last week, Spitty. They showed replays and Peyton was missing all over the place. Tonight it was smoke and mirrors. 5 KC turnovers.

  33. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I posted this in North Korea and it’s worth repeating: 28 of the Broncs 31 pts. were scored in the last 3:16 (John – a sign from God that Peyton should retire?) of the 2nd and 4th qtrs.

  34. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    They also showed the neat stat that Alex only completed 3 passes longer than 20 yds. No, not tonight. ALL OF LAST SEASON LOL

  35. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    RT – That’s what I was thinking when I was watching the game. All I could think was that neither qb could complete a pass past 20 yards. Manning can’t because he’s old and has nerve damage in his neck, arm and fingers. Alex Smith? What’s your excuse?

  36. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Manning wasn’t half as bad as you guys want to make him. Did you see the Baltimore game?

    Yeah, he missed some, and put three TDs on the board when he had to and with precision passes.

    You may be thinking of that guy in the red jersey. How many TDs did he throw? Not counting to the other team.

    Don’t forget Kubiac threw out Manning’s system and has Manning under center way too much now.

    I have no idea what this 3:16 is. I watched the game, too. TDs in QTR2 at 2:30 and :50. Offensive TD in QTR4 at 0:36 folled in a few seconds by a defensive TD.

  37. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    They showed the worst passes Peyton missed last week, NF, on some show or another. There were several, Peyton had plenty of time to throw, the receivers were wide open, and Peyton missed his mark by at least 10 yds. on each throw. There was no excuse for any of them.

    2:36 (2nd qtr) + 0:40 (4th qtr) = 3:16

  38. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Last week was pretty bad. Receivers had some of that ‘pretty bad’ too.

    The 3:16 thing is too much of a stretch for me. What do you do, just round off the clock and throw out the FG to make it work? And what is the implication? The Bible verse from John 3:16? What has that got to do with retiring?

  39. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Okay, RT, I gotcha. The plays _began_ with that time on the clock. The scoring was actually a few seconds later at the end of those plays. Still, quite a stretch.

  40. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Winder and NJ reign supreme off last weeks calls. Ok pigskin prognosticators here’s yer chance to be brilliant. Git yer perdictions in gentlemen, we have a contest to eyeball coming up (at 1 AM Monday morning, ugh).

    RTFirefly: 31-24 Niners. “I’ve gone over to The Dark Side. 31-24 Niners. There is no Dark Side, really. Matter of fact it’s all dark
    (Phil: The unis were dark and the numbers too…What, you’re going all optimistic on us? That’s sick, lol)

    Phil Fan: 24-20 Steelers. “Cautiously optimistic we will be competitive on the road against Steelers but still going to call for a close loss 20-24. Niners score 31 I’ll be elated”

    winder: 31-17 Niners (Gotcha Winder, whoa 2 TD win? Okay then)

    NJ: Steelers 27-21 “This coming game will require more shots on the Pittsburgh Secondary IMO. Question being, are we ready to click on the passing game? Gotta say, short week vs a rested Steeler team in their bldg, edge to Ben. Steelers 27-21”

    Spitblood: “Two. hundred. fifty. seven. to. nothing. Steelers.”

    This from last weeks biggest loser. Niners won’t go 0-16 but Spitwad might

  41. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Dennis just said something In Pyongyang N.K. chapter that shouldn’t surprise anyone (at least here on this blog)

    “And, Chuck. I saw what you just did there by adding adding extra lines to your previous comments w/o making a brand new comment.”

    That’s what they do in Pyongyang N.K. to control the narrative.
    The odds are stacked against you if you dissent. The wizard will just change what he posted to make you appear like a fool.
    Very sad and pathetic but his minions and lackeys just follow
    blindly and drink the koolaid.

  42. robNo Gravatar says:


  43. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niners beat the Vikes and right after this is what was being posted in Pyongyang N.K. chapter

    ” All you stupid mother^ckers at Skabie’s siteshould be eating a huge f%cking black crow pie right about now.”

    “The cancer blog is looking for the gas pipe. They are shitting their pants over this win. Can they back track fast enough to save their precious reputations.”

    Apparently these two clowns don’t know the season is 16 games.
    The Niners had a good win at home which is impressive.
    However let’s remember the Vikes were a 7-9 team with a second year QB and strangely they did not utilize their main offensive weapon in Peterson.

    Payback’s a bitch.

  44. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Sounds like a drunken Berger comment. Poor guy’s lost it.

  45. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Difficult to see any TV out here with work schedule. Still not on with NFL Game Pass. DC’s have film. No more deer in the headlight rookie QB’s to have fun with.

    Norv sure missed Loadholt and John Sullivan and got A gap blitzing and stunts that a good vet QB can deal with. Oline missing Pouncey and Mike Adams suspended or out of football? A no name line now except 1st Rd RG DeCastro. All I have to go by is 460 yards on the Pats D. Deangelo Williams an able sub for the suspended Bell.

    From the NN article I believe the Steelers were down there with the Falcons and Bears at the bottom of D rankings. CK will not see a good D until NFC West teams.

    Steelers 42 Niners 24. Without Pouncey they did OK so I guess they and the Packers have the best O still. Mangini’s flim flam will be exposed and scored on so will not use much of it this game.

    So how good is the niners pass rush. Does the line need blitzing from the back 7. If so Big Ben will eat it up.

  46. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Enjoy hearing comments like that. Chuck bares all on his blog. Reading between the lines his politics is straight out of high school. Trying to impress union hack stewards or some other Democrap patronage overseers.

  47. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I strongly disagree. Chuck has a lot of growing up to do before high school politics is within his reach.

    His latest tantrum toward Dennis’ “outlawed” opinion is reminiscent of a five year old girl being pulled away from the candy rack at Walmart.

  48. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Despite the NFL’s worst offseason ever the team is healthy. Still scrambling, CK exposing himself to be Nate Culpepper’d. What if Staley goes down.

  49. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    NF, I merely added together the time remaining on the clock at the time of the two scoring plays, one in the 2nd and one in the 4th, as listed on Yahoo! Sports.

    I didn’t even notice the Biblical connotation until it saw it with my eyes before I went ahead and posted it on Chuck’s blog (before I repeated the information here).

    Do you think I take Biblical references literally? I happen to like shellfish and the meat of animals with cloven hooves, and I don’t have any white rams handy to slaughter for my local priest for the appropriate sacrifice (I know it’s not always a white ram – depends on the need and ceremony) and I’m not sure my neighbors would appreciate the blood smeared on the doorposts, either.

    It was a partial joke. Partial in that Peyton in no way has been throwing the ball as well and consistently as in years past. He’s still awesome, but vulnerable.

  50. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    The point of my post, NF, was that the Broncos scored 28 pts. in three minutes and sixteen seconds. That’s Choke City, MO. Chief (s) goats Alex and Jamaal for the turnovers deep in KC territory that accounted for 14 last minute points.

  51. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Remember Chuckles has a reading comprehension disability.
    He paints this blog with a single brushstroke. Then again the clown thinks I’m bakkentom so he’s really confused when he makes a comment.

    At 10:02pm on Monday Night I posted this

    “Stick a fork inn the Vikes

    They are done.

    Good game by Niners

    Kap much improved and performance by Hyde outstanding.

    Defense played lights out.

    The film will reveal Hyde gains most of his yards left.”

    Chuckles can spin and twist things and fool small minds but the truth is the truth.

  52. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Are you a Levite? Do you know anything about what you’re making fun of? I won’t cut your head off about it anyway. After all, Christianity isn’t the religion of peace or anything.

    Manning and his team had a rough start, granted. He came back to win with over 250 yards and three touchdowns. Any other QB would have been praised for such a performance under pressure.

    The guy’s slowing down. He doesn’t zip those throws outside the numbers anymore. He still put a lot of balls on target more accurately than almost anyone playing the game. And without all day to throw, for those who think that’s the only way a QB can be expected to play.

    Bronco’s running game was shit all night. Nobody noticed.

  53. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    “The point of my post, NF, was that the Broncos scored 28 pts. in three minutes and sixteen seconds. ”

    That doesn’t make any sense. You can always carve out scoring plays and say they scored in fifteen seconds of the 60 minutes they played.

  54. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Well, the Leviticus passages sure seem to make a mockery out of those who claim the Bible was written by God and is infallible. As far as peace, I don’t believe in stoning to death unfaithful wives. Kinda warlike to me.

    So, NF, how do you account for getting the ball back and scoring twice? You didn’t, you couldn’t, you can’t, without referencing the overall time elapsed.

  55. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Ellington ruled questionable because of ankle issue.
    Time for Patton to step up or get passed by D White.

  56. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Thanks Bakkentom I’ll check out the Valley fire link. Used to drive through Middletown on the way up to Cobb Mountain a lot long ago. Very dry and hot area.

    I’m a New Testament guy all the way.

  57. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Apparently the head clown doesn’t like his exile to his homeland, Pyongyang N.K. chapter, Fairyland blog.

    Chuckles keeps asking why he was shown the door and told never to come back. That in itself is funny but nobody deserves to be humiliated as much as Chuckles.

    As usual he’s clueless thinking Spitty doesn’t post here anymore but then again Chuckles can’t seem to read.

  58. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Turn overs will kill ya as Alex and Charles prove once again. Amazed Manning can still play well enough to win at his age. Good on him.

    We turn the ball over against PIT it’s going to be over quick. We’ll need good games from Kap, OL, D, OC, HC, waterboy

  59. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Peyton Manning unfortunately is a good hard hit from not getting up. In the past 10 years he has not been hit as often and as had as this season. It’s the shots he takes after he gets rid of the ball that will take their toll.

  60. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    I wonder what happened to Berger. I like the guy but seems the booze (?) is getting to him. I don’t really know at all. There were good reasons for me to quit tho.

  61. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    If Manning gets through the season in one piece he should hang it up for good. Or even if he doesn’t and is injured. Enough, too risky.

    Great song “Dreamland” by John Gorka about boxers not knowing when to hang ’em up. It applies to Manning as well.

  62. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    RT, most, I think, hold that “the law books”, aka the Torah, or the Pentateuch, were written by Moses. They are the basis of the Hebrew faith. Leviticus among them, is mainly instruction for the Hebrews to survive their journey. Most believe Moses was writing God’s word.

    Also, I don’t understand what you are asking an account for. You want to take the scoring play, not when the points were made but when the play started, and say that time added to the time another scoring play STARTED, not scored points, equals some number that’s equivalent to a Bible verse and impute some meaning to it, and I should account for it being nonsense?

  63. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like Jimi H wasn’t the only one to get the shaft from York once Levis got built:

    49ers value soars as youth soccer suffers


    “I got mine, screw you”

  64. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    NF, what part of scoring 28 pts. in 3:16 don’t you understand? That translates to 0 pts. in 27:24 in the first half. 14 in 2:36. It translates to 3 pts. in 29:20 in the second half. 14 in 0:40. It’s simple math, arithmetic which I learned by age 6. I don’t see why you’re arguing the point.

    So you’re saying that “most people”, i.e. some Christians, some Muslims, and some Jews, believe a man who claimed to have burning vegetation speak to him wrote the Word of God. Go for it.

  65. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I told you whence I derived the times. Did you not read it, or are you just enjoying seeing your own rant in print?

    BTW, John 3:16 was a fixture on nationally broadcast NFL games for decades. You’d know the connection between 3:16 and 3:16 if you had ever watched any football on TV during those decades.

  66. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    For those on Blog X and elsewhere who scoffed at the idea expressed here by me and others that the Niners FO was putting the squelch on the press if they wouldn’t paint York + Niner FO moves as anything but rosy:

    Steve Berman of Bay Area Sports Guy was denied press credentials to last weeks game by the Niners. He watched it on TV instead. Why was that? Could it have something to do with his posting critical remarks about the recent team moves of past couple years?

    Ya think? My way or the highway and you’ll like it or else. This is the ‘or else’.

  67. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    RT I thought your point was pretty humorous actually. But I still do not like the OT. No not Staley.

  68. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    When they removed Harbaugh’s display from the 49er Museum a week after he was gone, that should’ve told you how petty these guys are. They were trying to erase what is 49er history, success and legacy. Very weak trying to cover up reality.

  69. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    It’s arbitrary bullshit, not “simple math.” You’re using the time on the clock when the play started because it fits. Why not use the 15:00 at the start of the quarter in which the points were scored instead? Or the time at the start of the possession? You’re throwing away the 3 points the field goal added because it doesn’t fit. Ridiculous.

    So you think forced and tortured numerology makes more sense?

    What I don’t understand is people who dig up a broken piece of what resembles a cup offer it as obvious proof that the artifact had a maker. But see the myriad complexities in man and the environment as dumb luck of falling dust.

  70. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yep I forgot about that Bullit. Really pathetic. There was so much crap going on that got buried in my memory.

    This is the same crew running the show so expect more baloney. Fortunately Tommy has the guys playing hard, buying in, and the other coaches seem to be making some good moves on the field.

    We’ll see. Long season.

  71. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    As the head of a blog you should have a certain amount of knowledge and a responsibility to your readers not to feed them
    bogus or erroneous info.

    Chuckles just tried to fly this myth
    “W an with or run game these past few years we rarely won the TOP battle”

    The truth is in the 4 years of Harbaugh the Niner always had the superior average Time of Possession

    2011 31:31
    2012 31:01
    2013 30:21
    2014 31:27

    As usual Chuckles just propagates BS and hopes nobody will check. Not sure what Chuckles thinks rarely means.

    Check it for yourself

  72. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Sorry, NF, but you’re full of it. I used the times Yahoo! reported. At 2:37 remaining in the first half the score was 14-0 KC. At 0:41 in the fourth, the score was 24-17 KC. You can’t change that no matter how you whine.

    2:36 + 0:40 = 3:16. I’m available for lessons.

    You clearly never paid any attention to televised football all those decades. It was physically impossible to see an extra point without seeing a sign held up bearing the term, “John 3:16” on it.

    If you cannot comprehend these simple statements, and cannot make the connection between 3:16 (football time) and 3:16 (Biblical verse seen on football TV) then it’s simply impossible to argue with you.

  73. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    You also missed the part in my post where I stated that making the connection was a partial joke based on the fact that Peyton is very limited in the passes he can still throw successfully these days. What part of the word “joke” connotes numerology?

    You didn’t read any of my posts. You just want to whine.

  74. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Look, NoFear… forget the stats and the videos and the commentary from the talking heads. Go watch an actual Peyton Manning game and tell me his throws look good. They don’t. This is his last year for a reason. And really, last year should have been his last year.

  75. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Peyton’s completion %s for throwing long, and also for throwing to the right, are way down. They’re still good for throwing left and center, short and intermediate. DCs will plan appropriately.

  76. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuckles just jumped the shark saying
    “If not FOR Harbaugh we win the Super Bowl 3 years ago.”

    I suppose Chuckles to trying to write the Pyonyang N.K. chapter propaganda version that Harbaugh almost ruined the 49ers by winning 44 games and taking them to 3 NFCCG when for almost a decade they were a laughing stock and never knew a winning season.

    Maybe Chuckles still grieves for Singletary and Jimmy Raye.

    Just one of the dumbest things anyone has ever typed and it was Chuckles who authored that gem.

  77. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    “2:36 + 0:40 = 3:16. I’m available for lessons.”

    Pull up a chair then;

    Lesson #1:

    At 2:33 remaining in the first half the score was 14-0 KC.
    At 0:38 remaining in the second half the score was 24-17 KC.

    2:33 + 0:38 = 3:11. BFD.

    Lesson #2:

    The time listed for the play is the time on the game clock when the play begins not when the play results in a score.

    I told you I got your point. I said it was a stretch. You wanted to keep pushing it. And it’s still not accurate.

  78. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    It’s completely accurate according to Yahoo!, which as I pointed out multiple times, was my source. 28 points in 3:16 vs. 28 pts. in 3:11 according to you. That’s still 28 pts. in 3:1x. That’s still 4 TDs in a very short span of time.

  79. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I’m still available for lessons for adding up the times Yahoo! published.

  80. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    If you’re disputing the times that Yahoo! published as the official scoring times, why don’t you take it up with Yahoo!?

  81. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Forget the stats. Go watch a game. Peyton is done. Great player. Great person. It’s his final year. No big deal.

    And yes…. Peyton can still make throws. No question. But teams are going to dare Peyton to throw deeper and he won’t be able to make defenses pay. He got lucky last night, and maybe he’s charmed this year but I doubt it. I think Peyton will miss the playoffs and he might go 8-8 if the Broncos are lucky….. like they were last night.

  82. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Seconds tick off the clock while the play progresses. The Yahoo times are the times that the play BEGINS. There were seconds ticking off before the score actually occurred, thus more seconds the original score stood. The times I listed are approximately a second before the actual event creating the score took place. What’s so hard about that?

    Let alone the fact you had to ignore the FG to make the scenario plausible. You could have said 14 of their points happened in the last 40 seconds, err, 38 seconds, same impact but no derogatory biblical reference, but that would defeat your purpose.

    Yeah, Peyton’s getting old. Astute observation. And he’s still better than two thirds of the starting QBs in the league.

  83. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    1) Take it up with Yahoo! I repeated the times reported by them.
    If you’re not happy with that, get them to change the times.

    2) You apparently can’t count or failed to read my postssssss (plural). Where in 4 TDs in 3:16 does a FG figure in?

    3) What “derogatory biblical (sic) reference”? John 3:16? Leviticus? I went to 12 years of religious schools. Did you?These issues were discussed in religion classes. Perhaps you should take it up with the Archbishop? Go higher – write an e-mail to the Pope. Maybe he’ll change religious education in this country while he’s addressing Congress.

    4) Your last post seems to ignore 2 TDs. Why is that?

  84. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Perhaps you meant that conflating 3:16 in football time and John 3:16 was derogatory? That it was a sign from God that Peyton should retire? That was a joke even the Pope would laugh at. Take it up with him.

  85. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Or are you saying that now jokes which are not PC to a few people should never be uttered? So much for the 1st Amendment. Let’s just all live in a glass bubble from Day 1 and sing “Kumbaya” (another Catholic school reference, alas) to ourselves.

  86. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Face it, NoFear. You’d be happier living in a Muslim country. There, religion never has jokes made about it, in least not in print. 16th century Spain might be more your taste, but I’m afraid you missed by 500 years.

  87. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Against the Vikes the Niner total offense total was 395 yards
    which happens to be the same total as the last game of 2014 against the Cards.

    In fact last season the Niners went over 400 yards against the Eagles, Rams and Chargers.

  88. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Peyton Manning is not better than 2/3rds of the starting qbs in the league. No chance. NoFear – are you even watching Manning games?

    In the NFC, Manning is better than Bridgewater and Winston but I’d rather have Cousins than Manning. In the AFC, Manning is better than Carr, equal to Alex Smith, better than Mariotta, better than Mallet, better than Manziel, equal to Fitz, not better than Bortles, better than T Taylor.

    So for my money, Peyton Manning is right now ranked 24th out of 32 teams and the other 8 qbs chasing Manning are all very young. But 24th of 32 teams is hardly “better than 2/3rds.” For Manning to be “better than 2/3rds” he’d have to be a top ten qb and I don’t think anyone believes Manning is a top ten qb in the league anymore.

    Manning is now comparable to qbs like Alex Smith (who would have beat Manning if it wasn’t for a late Charles fumble), Ryan Fitzpatrick, Kirk Cousins and Blake Bortles. There’s nothing wrong with that. He’s still a serviceable qb who had a great career, but he’s definitely not going out on the top of his game. A lot of his throws now are just pain awful.

  89. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s how I rank the starting qbs in the NFL right now. And this is based on if I needed to win a game in the NFL right now. It’s not based on who I’d rather have on my team.

    1.) Aaron Rogers
    Andrew Luck
    Tom Brady
    Drew Brees
    Matt Ryan
    Phillip Rivers
    Ben Roethisberger
    Carson Palmer
    Russell Wilson
    Eli Manning
    Joe Flacco
    Matt Stafford
    Tony Romo
    Nick Foles
    Cam Newton
    Ryan Tannehill
    Sam Bradford
    Jay Cutler
    Alex Smith
    Kirk Cousins
    Blake Bortles
    Peyton Manning
    Andy Dalton
    Ryan Fitz
    Tyrod Taylor

    This is my qb ranking that’s not based on stats or media. This ranking is just based on watching a lot of football.

  90. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:


    In article Mike Munchak has made the steelers line one of the best, including wo pouncey. Todd Haley has also brought short passing game back so blitz packages can be answered. Why have Antonio Brown risk his health on punt returns.

  91. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    CK scalp on the wall. 2 fast ILB’s and to go after niners running attack bring back shamarko Thomas SS as the starter. 3 young guns with a bloodthirsty lust for a scrambling QB.

    Need to know more about the LDE-NT-RDE, can they keep lane disciple and allow the LB’s to fly to the ball.

    Good game, if the run attack is controlled then to keep pace the CK passing machine has to show itself.

  92. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    To keep pace on the scoreboard CK may be inclined to over compensate and psyche himself with long runs. Can this D deliver the first serious injury to CK.

    Remember Warren Sapp kicking the head of a tackled Steve Young when the play was dead. Scrambling QB’s irritating a defense. Emotions and unsportsmanlike conduct a worry here.

  93. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    At the bottom of QB list, Jameis Winston the FSU rapist. Lovie Smith likes those alpha males. Owner made boasts about winning with class, not in Tampa Bay. Lovie likes him some felons.

  94. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I would agree on your top five in some order. Roethlisberger, Ryan in the same tier as Peyton next, along with Palmer, Rivers and Romo.

    The problem is you need some criteria to rank QBs. If it’s going to be totally subjective, there is, by definition, no right or wrong.

    I say Peyton’s in the top ten, you say he’s in the bottom ten, so what? History tells us you should change your position now and save being forced to by embarrassment later.

  95. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear – My criteria is simple…. who would you chose to win you one game right now. All variables the same. I hate to say it but I’d take Alex Smith over Manning because Manning’s pass right now are like a box of chocolates – you just don’t know what you’re going to get.

  96. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Nice Forest Gump reference. He was pretty fast out of the backfield too but I too would take Alex today. Besides after 52 sacks last year, assuming we had Manning, he would be on IR.

    If PIT stacks the box it will cut down our run game so I would think OC knowing this will implement a short passing game to RB, TE and slants to the WRs. OC will know the ILBs will be gunning for Kap so will compensate with even more rollouts, draws. When was the last time the NIners ran a draw? Mooch era I bet.

    So far OC has been sticking with plays that work in the one game = ZBS stretch runs mixed in with some ZBS runs up middle + TE heavy sets (3). This is a different O than what we have seen in years…since Mooch?

    Bakkentom you watching the game tomorrow?

  97. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, will be asleep but if I can get registered etc. with NFL Game Pass probably on my reset day of tuesday,wednesday.

  98. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    “My criteria is simple…. who would you chose to win you one game right now. All variables the same. I hate to say it but I’d take Alex Smith over Manning… ”

    If only there were a matchup of these two on the horizon we could know for sure if your hypothesis was bullshit, oh wait, I remember watching just such a matchup recently…

    Manning threw three TDs and Alex threw none. Alex bested Peyton only in INTs and sacks. Good choice!

    Last week Alex did better. If throwing TDs to TEs and RBs only was a category he’d be the top guy.

    You might want to rethink your bias and get back to me.

  99. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear – Did you even watch the game you just cited? And Alex Smith would have beaten Manning if Jamaal Charles didn’t fumble the football on his own twenty yard line.

    But that really doesn’t matter. And neither does this debate. Keep rooting for Peyton. That’s your prerogative. I’m rooting for him too. I just know what I’m seein’… and it’s not pretty.

  100. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Am rooting for Peyton to be our new OC next year.

  101. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Peyton would make a great coach but there’s one problem…. he’s too smart for that. He’ll retire and do something like Elway – trying to get into some cushy front office job. Or Peyton will just walk away from the game all together and start a hedge fund or something.

  102. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    He’d sure as hell never work for Jed York.

  103. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    He’s up to eyebrows in Papa John-dom now.
    Guessing he’s destined for the TV platform in some analyst capacity perhaps?

    BTW Skeebs, we’re A-OK on the Chrome access tonight.

  104. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Down field shot plays to VD and Torrey also a cure for the PIT stacked box, eh NJ? Nice if thrown their way and better if one or two connect.

    Niners are going to be a lot less predictable on O and on D. Now players must execute these cool schemes/plays.

  105. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Curious to see how they attack it Phil.
    I’ve seen a big decline in the Pittsburgh Secondary.

    Question becomes, Kaep making the proper reads for this one.
    I’m fine with the 3TE sets simply because it forces the Defense to respect the running game.
    If we can throw from it with success, this game is definitely winnable.
    Just hate the short week, and going on the road, vs a team that had 10 days to fix their own issues.

    No problem taking some shots deep.
    Polamalu isn’t back there creating havoc, so that’s a plus.
    I’m sure Pittsburgh won’t be ignoring the TEs like they did with Gronk in Week 1 either.

  106. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    One thing we know, Ben is miles ahead of Teddy when it comes to picking apart a Defense.
    Big test for us.

  107. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Was reading a piece that Tomsula is a Pittsburgh native himself.
    Parents and Family are still there.
    Interesting homecoming of sorts. As the enemy 😀


  108. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Steelers by 6.

  109. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Exactly how I picked it too NoFear49er.
    27-21 Steelers.

    Won’t bother me one iota to be wrong though.

  110. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hey NJ49er, I just went for the spread for Phil’s contest. Exact points is mo better.

    If we play good ball and get this win on the road I’m gonna have to take this season more seriously.

  111. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear49er I’m anxious to see if the gambling style of Mangini fits the younger pieces on D this year.
    Thought Fangio played it safe a little too often at times last year.

    I’m totally in a wait and see mode myself.
    Vikes weren’t as tough as I expected them to be.

    Good spot for Kaep and Torrey find some timing today vs a less than stellar Pittsburgh Secondary.
    If we can get them on the ropes early it’ll be a plus.
    Short week and travel don’t offer much comfort for me however.

  112. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    OK NoFear “Steelers by six” gotcha. True true, we win this one some reassessment in order. We’ll be able to hear Chuck and Bergs crowing all the way over here.

    But all Niner fans will be v happy. Works for me.

    OK you Carnacs out there this is yer last chance to place yer bets for a shot at glory. Such as it is.

  113. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    The defense should get tested today. The offense will get tested next week in Arizona. After that, we should have a better idea of what type of mediocrity the team is.

  114. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    49ers inactives: WR Ellington, RB Bush, C Easton, G Thomas, NG Purcell, CB Wright, OLB Lemonier.

  115. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Ellington just can’t seem to stay healthy. Not sure where he got hurt last week.
    Bush was in for 2 plays and is carted off to the locker room.
    Tomsula says it’s nothing serious but they don’t let Bush travel with the team to Pittsburgh.
    Thomas still can’t make them 46 and dress for games. He sounds like another Looney unless he still is hurting from his knee injury.
    Lot’s of ?????

  116. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, yeah, first week is tough for everybody.

    Win or lose, I’m already happy, I don’t have to suffer through Dilfer this week.

  117. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    They are about to waste a time out challenging the Antonio Brown catch.

  118. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Boone having a rough day.

  119. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Antonio Brown beats the entire secondary on that play.

  120. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Hyde is taking too many heavy licks and hits.
    He’s already looking beat up.

  121. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    No pass rush and secondary getting torched. What a surprise.

  122. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    I wonder if Jed York thinks this is “acceptable.”


  123. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, Mangini’s D coming apart. I don’t remember so many receivers getting behind Donatell’s guys so easily.

  124. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yikes, just yikes.

    Romp. Couple quick TDs right after I tune in.

    Ben having field day

  125. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Why are you watching, Spit?

  126. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Imagine that…. most of the Vikings’ offensive formations this week are I formation with Bridgewater under center. What the hell was Norv Turner thinking week one?

  127. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Wheels coming off now. We’ll see if Tomsula can regroup at the half.

  128. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear – I’m watching the RedZone channel while working. Can’t help them showing Niner games. Also… my new favorite team is whomever is playing the 49ers – so go Steelers!!

  129. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    LMAO!!! The Niners’ secondary looks awesome! LMAO!!

  130. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Vance McDonald injured. What’s new?

  131. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    The only question is who is going to tweet the apology and whose “daughter” is going to demand the HC/OC/DC’s heads?

  132. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Where’s Rob? Where’s Winder?



  133. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    No secondary, no pass rush + Ben = 3-28.

    Reality strikes and it sucks

  134. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Pretty tall order for the Niners today, but they look like shit on both sides of the ball.

  135. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:


    Anyone missing Jim Harbaugh yet?

  136. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Where’s Jimi? Oh yeah ‘mutual parting of ways’. Mutual right.

    SF PIT
    First Downs 10 14
    Total Yards 103 280
    Passing Yards 33 252
    Rushing Yards 70 28
    Penalties (Yds) 4(21) 5(35)
    Turnovers 1 0
    Punts (AVG) 3(38) 1(34)
    Time of Pos. 17:45 11:58

    Passing Yards 33 Niners 252 PIT

    Miss Donatell, Fangio?

  137. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Ok back to sleep.

  138. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Carlos Hyde heading to 49ers locker room with trainers.

  139. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Niners are doing a good job of running time off the clock.

  140. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    18-play drive, 0 points.

  141. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Delay of game. Ooops!

  142. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Suicide is painless. It brings on many changes. Is Blaine gabbert in yet. How could a young, so so D that lead to Lebeau’s firing do this to CK.

    What happened in Three Rivers. Is CK just doing easy short passes like last week. Any pocket passing deep to Smith and VD. Career suicide for CK yet.

  143. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    How does Kap not see the clock about to strike zero?
    I kept asking that question last year and the blame went to the playcaller.
    That is the QB’s job

  144. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Phil – I said 257-0, Steelers. I’m closest. What do I win?

  145. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    I can promise you one thing…. I’m not even watching the game, but I know (because I blogged about it all spring and summer) that this isn’t a Colin Kaepernick issue. Terrible D, terrible owner, terrible offensive line does not equal heat on the qb. It’s the owner and front office who are to blame. But I’m sure that some, no matter what, will blame Kaep. Such is the life of an NFL qb.

  146. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    How could a nothing pass rush from a failing Jarvis Jones and an old man Harrison not give CK time to hit Torrey and VD. Are we being outcoached. Is CK back to his old habits.

  147. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Kaepernick not looking bad. He’s not panicking or taking foolish chances. He’s one of the few not looking like crap today.

  148. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Washington beating Rams. Weird.

  149. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Closest on the spread is Bakkentom who had Steelers winning by 18 not 257.

    However you get to serve the crow to Blog X

  150. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t care about blog X. I’m here to win this competition and it looks like I have to petition the commissioner. In spirit, I’m a winner.

  151. robNo Gravatar says:

    I’m here spit
    We’re looking more like a 7-9 team than 9-7 right now
    But imo we’re going to be ok

  152. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Bakkentom has the Steelers 42 points in da bag. So Niners need to score and blow the extra point to get to 24 and he’s golden.

    But we’re not dumping Kap pr benching him

  153. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    CK not on his rookie contract anymore. So play like it or bench for Blaine. The GD game is a blowout. To a mediocre D with a middling pass rush and bad DB’s.

    Is dimwitt reading D and finding open receivers long. If not this is Blaine time now. Rex likes him some run first QB’s. TB, get off your worthless leftie yuppie ass. Put down your phucking latte’s and get Rex on speed dial.

  154. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Lol okay you win in spirit,

    Exact score or closest then secondarily exact spread or closest are the criteria that seem to work best in Phils Carnac Contest

  155. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Oh Steelers got 43 not 42 but Bakkentom is still closest on the spread as he called for 18 points and it wound up at 25.

    Niners lost by 25 points.


  156. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Spit you gonna watch the post-game presser w/ Tommy? If so what are your impressions?

  157. robNo Gravatar says:

    It’s OK PHIL

    if they hadn’t stolen that TD by Miller we would have only lost by 18 😉

  158. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Did I put down 42-24?

  159. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Sept 18 12:30 pm post 42-24

  160. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Close counts in Carnac-land Rob and Bakkentom is da man.

    RZ woes continue to bite

  161. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Did Aaron Lynch and Brooks play today? Carradine and Armstead?
    I only heard #55 called for offsides.
    Where was the pass rush even with the Mangini blitzes?
    Big Ben stood there and picked them apart.

  162. robNo Gravatar says:

    IMO losing Aldon Smith is huge

  163. robNo Gravatar says:

    55 made some nice plays vs. The run but not much else as far as I could see. Imo Lynch is the best pass rusher we have left

  164. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Carlos Hyde might be undergoing the concussion protocol according to Joe Fonzi.

    I mentioned earlier that Hyde was taking some huge hits especially the shot to his knee.
    In typical fashion Chuck the moron mocks me for this comment because he’s ignorant and proves again he’s clueless about football.
    Just shameful for a guy who runs a football blog who’s a know nothing blowhard..

  165. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Per espn box score Lynch or Harold had 0 tables and 0 sacks, Brooks 2 tackles

  166. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Brooks and Carradine had 2 total tackles each.
    Lynch and Armstead are not in the defensive box score so they were shut out.

  167. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Philly just lost 2 of their starting LBs Kiko Alonso and Michael Kendricks to injury. Kendricks might return but Alonso is reported out.
    Game is approaching halftime and Cowgurls lead 3-0.

  168. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I’m sure you heard Kap calling signals and yelling “Kill, Kill”.
    What’s up with that? I thought those days were history?

  169. robNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe they should be

  170. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Not much to say. When your QB posts a 106 rating, you have over 400 yards total offense, you dominate time of possession, and you only have one turnover all day, you expect to win most of the time. You certainly don’t expect to lose by 25 Goddamned points.

    The O-line is a mess but the defensive backs were the real stinker today. Our DBs got torched like the good folks of Pompeii today. Six plays of over 25 yards, and Rapistberger looking like could have had a thousand yards if he really wanted them.

    In the NFL of 2015, if your secondary cannot cover, you’re in trouble.

    We’re in trouble deep.

  171. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Oh Oh Romo is hurt as he has been sacked and has a shoulder injury. Romo went to the locker room.

    Announcers says its looks like he’s not coming back.

    Jerry Jones looks like someone died.

  172. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Romo is reported to have a broken collarbone.
    Dallas in trouble.

  173. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Will they give us 2 1st’s for dimwit. Dallas wants playoffs and will pay. Is Romo 35 yet?

  174. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Dallas presumed to be in playoffs. Dallas 2016 1st, 2016 2nd or 3rd, Romo for CK. We get basic an old FA type to groom Blaine or a 2016 draftee.

    York’s pay big for the best OC/HC and let’s get some major O. No more excuses for dimwit.

  175. robNo Gravatar says:

    The funny thing GRUMP is I still like our secondary. Still think it was more lack of rush.we’re missing Justin and Aldon mostly

  176. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Not sure York wants to pay for coaching talent of any quality. Retreads sure, they’re cheap. Not that any quality coaches want to come here. They don’t. Work for a proven meddling clueless owner when better options are available?

    The meek shall inherit the Niner world. Then they can bow to the big god in the sky box. And lose with a lotta class. Like today.

    It’s hard to be optimistic when we’ve seen this act for years and years.

    Pessimism = realism…until proven otherwise.

  177. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Other teams are going to look what Steelers did and use the same type plays to exploit perceived weaknesses in the defense.
    If you don’t have a pass rush and can’t cover that is a deadly combination waiting to be exploited.

  178. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Steelers game planned so Taart and Ward were non factors.
    They also don’t appear in the defensive stats.
    In fact Bowman only had 4 tackles this game so they minimized his effectiveness.

  179. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Last time the Niners lost by a similar margin was Oct 11, 2009
    against Atlanta.

  180. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    All DC’s now know how to shut down this O. CK needs to excel. Other QB’s weathered a bad line. No more excuses. CK highest paid on the team. Is he a value play?

    Dallas needs him, make a great trade.

  181. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    It’s hard to miss Aldon since he’s been MIA for two years now. He had one tackle for the Raiders today and that was it.

    Crabtree: 9 for 111 yards.

  182. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bowman didn’t look good, playing hurt again maybe.

    Some folks were scoffing for years at the notion of leaning on solid defense and defending against big plays. I’ll bet they wish we could do that again now.

    Skuta making plays, too.

  183. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Steelers didn’t do anything magical. They beat us in the trenches. Both sides of the ball. That’s always been the “formula.” That’s why you don’t dump a Iupati to save money you don’t need. That’s why you don’t take a successful d-line coach and Peter Principal him a la Singletary.

  184. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Per Maiocco further news on status of Hyde and it’s positive.
    He was determined not to have a concussion but Tomsula opted to save him further punishment. So he can practice and prepare for the Cards.

    I am concerned that Hyde is taking too many flush hits.
    Not too many ankle tackles or glancing blows. Defense is getting their money’s worth.

  185. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    James Jones and Rodgers burn Sherman for a TD. Maybe he’ll explode if some sideline reporter puts a mic in his face.

  186. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Lynch can’t gain an inch. Lost a few yards on two carries.
    Niners see this defense and Aaron Rodgers in two weeks.

  187. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Gore had a knack for minimizing big hits. He also had lead blockers. Not too much of that while leaning on the zone blocking O-line system.

  188. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Jerry Jones on how he felt when Tony Romo went down: “Just about as low as a crippled cricket’s ass.”

  189. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Rob: “The funny thing Grump is I like our secondary.” Figures.
    Rob also thinks this team is a 7-9 team. Where exactly are those other six wins coming from? This is a 2-14 team. The Niners might beat the Browns or Lions. Maybe.

    So I have one question for all of you…. Why exactly did Jed York fire a coach who’d been to 3 straight NFC championship games for Jim Tomsula and this coaching staff? Does anyone remember a Jim Harbaugh product getting beat this badly? Ever?

  190. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Only Berger and Chuck would sacrifice a head coach like Harbaugh for this knuckleaded coaching staff that Jed York just hired and criticize Harbaugh for pre-snap time-outs and offensive schemes. Seems to me I preferring winning with Harbaugh than losing with Tomsula. But Reno and Chuck are homer company men who love whomever the owner hires… morons. Nothing worse than a kiss-ass.

  191. robNo Gravatar says:

    Well SPIT if you’re so sure we’re a 2-14 team put up or shut up
    6-10 you win
    7-9 or better I win
    100 bucks
    Otherwise king me bitch !!!

  192. robNo Gravatar says:

    Any comments there buddy

  193. bullitNo Gravatar says:


  194. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    OLine looked like garbage today.
    DLine didn’t get a sniff, which exposed several busted coverages in the Secondary.
    No complaints with Kaep, given the struggles with the interior of the OLine not giving him room to step up on more than a few occasions.

    Todd Haley worked the bubble screens to perfection and thwarted several of Mangini’s pressure packages too.

    All in all, a game to dissect and, (hopefully), learn from.

  195. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Rob – If there’s a bigger 49er moron out there than you, I want to know about it. I don’t want to meet them, but I want to know.

    I tried to bet with you 7-9 for $100 and you were the Macy’s workin’, moped drivin’ coward you normally are.

    I’ll now bet you they don’t go 6-10 for $100, and sweeten the pot for you but I know your games. You’re too much of a coward to man up. In fact, “man up” isn’t in your vocabulary.

  196. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Who else this year are the 49ers going to beat? Look at the schedule. The 49ers aren’t going to beat anyone in their division. That leaves the Packers, Giants, Ravens, Cinci, Browns, Atlanta, Chicago and Detroit. From the looks of things, the Ravens suck. The 49ers might beat the Ravens at home.

    But here’s something else to think about… when will Tomsula lose the locker room? Or put differently… when will the 49ers just quit on the season? What’s the breaking point? 1-6? 1-7? LMAO!!!

    Suck it 49er homers. Suck it Winder, Rob, Unca and Berger. Ya’ll deserve this strong dose of reality. I’m laughing my ass off. It burns double, don’t it? Your 49ers suck, and your blogging reality house of cards has already been exposed as a shame. 8-8? My ass.

    GOOOOO……. whomever plays the Niners!!! Jed York deserves this. Next stop… Levi Stadium is a ghost town.

    Who in their right mind would pay for a ticket to Levi stadium to watch this team?

  197. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I love it. I just watched the Jim Tomsula press conference.. and so it begins. What a moron. “We uh, we, well, we didn’t get it done.” No shit?

    And he didn’t even know Antonio Brown’s name. He just referred to him as “that guy.” If you don’t know the opposition’s best offensive player’s name, how are you, as the head coach, going to know how to stop him. If you don’t even know his name, you don’t have the necessary level of familiarity with the player to shut him down. You aren’t going to know his traits and tendencies if you don’t even know his name…. LMAO. Tomsula: The gift that keeps on giving.

    And the press are already grilling Tomsula. Eventually he’ll lose it. Can’t wait.

    Who in their right mind would pay for a ticket to watch a 49er game?

  198. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Arizona and Green Bay are both going to beat the 49ers by 40 points each. Then the 49ers will be 1-3 and demoralized and going into New York. If the 49ers don’t beat a very average New York team, Levi Stadium will be a ghost town. I love it.

    Go Cardinals!!! Go Packers!!!

  199. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    HAHAHA.. God, I love it. Deion Sanders talking on the NFL Network during the 49er highlights…. or lowlights. “This 49er football team looks so bad.” And either Marshal Faulk or Michael Irvin says, “And they looked so good last week,” and Deion fires back… “Against who? Minnesota?” I love it. I hate Deion for being Jed York’s Uncle Tom last year, crying Harbaugh lost the locker room when that clearly wasn’t true but Deion’s right on about this. This team is terrible. Deion was even heard asking, “How do you beat down coverage that bad?” when Antonio Brown beat Bethea and I assume Johnson like rented mules. How does that happen?

    I gotta wonder, Jed York… is the defense allowing 43 points “ACCEPTABLE?” I wonder where Jed’s twitter account was this afternoon?

    I love it!!!!!!!!!!! Go Cardinals!!!!!!

  200. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Compare another franchise that overhauled their Staff this year.
    John Fox/Adam Gase/Vic Fangio = 0-2, (with Jay Cutler).
    46pts scored
    79pts allowed

    Sean Peyton/Drew Brees/Rob Ryan = 0-2
    38pts scored
    57pts allowed
    Beaten in their bldg today by Rookie QB Jameis Winston.

    Seattle, Philly, Baltimore and NYG also sitting at 0-2.
    Dallas just lost Romo to Weeden.
    That’s how it goes in the NFL.

  201. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Should have been written as Sean Payton

  202. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    NJ – I’d see if they’ll let you off your meds. The Bears fired the incompetent Marc Tresman who was coaching in Canada prior. How is that related to Jed York firing the best coach in 49er history since Bill Walsh? So in your mind Trestman won the Grey Cup and that equates to Harbaugh going to three straight NFC Championships? Put yourself out of your own misery. That’s just how it goes? My ass. Jed York is an idiot and you’re trying to find a way to cope with that.

  203. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Marc Trestman isn’t my point Spit.
    Clearly an upgrade ‘on paper’ to replace him with Gase and Fox, no?
    Your agenda is transparent enough to any of us with a brain.
    Whether Jed made the right, or the wrong move isn’t the point.
    He’s the Owner. He lives with the decisions he makes.

    Changes are made for a variety of reasons in this game.
    It isn’t all about wins and losses in our situation.
    Clearly, Harbaugh and the FO couldn’t coexist.

    As for meds?
    There’s an age old saying about people who live in glass houses and the stones they throw.
    Revel in your glory as you will.
    Whatever floats your boat Geneous.

  204. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Jeffrey Lurie handed control to Chip Kelly in Philly.
    Put Tom Gamble back on our Staff at least.
    Let’s see how that move pays off over time.

    Thus far, Chip the GM looks like an epic face plant move.
    Players have been grumbling about him as the HC for several years as well.
    Likely prompting Chip to lobby for ultimate control so as to quiet any critics from within, including Gamble and Roseman.

  205. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chip Kelly had some people fooled but his offense is a gimmick
    and now DCs know how to defend.

  206. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, Shazier looked like the real deal in Pittsburgh today too.
    Sure wish he’d have been playing on our side.
    Good looking player to say the least.

    Chip is literally wearing out his own players too.
    He’s hell bent on scoring but, his Defense is where he’s suffering for it IMO.
    DeMarco Murray, thus far, looks like a square peg in a round hole.
    Granted, it’s 2 games in but, they look lost, including Chip.

  207. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Another of Chips’ castoffs, Brandon Boykin broke up a TD against us today in Pittsburgh.

    Chip paid a boatload of money to acquire Byron Maxwell in the offseason as a consolation move.
    Julio Jones ate his lunch last week in Atlanta too.
    Seems as though the glue that held it together in Seattle was Dan Quinn perhaps?
    So it goes in the NFL.
    Every piece needs to fit, and work together, to be successful.
    Pittsburgh had the better plan today.
    It’s all about making the necessary adjustments, from game to game, that make the difference between success and failure.

  208. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Of course, NJ, you don’t want to make the self-imposed Jed York firing of Harbaugh and subsequent 49er collapse your point. Of course, NJ, you don’t want to look at the situation realistically and see why the 49ers’ have imploded. You don’t want to look because Jed York fired Jim Harbaugh and long ago you hitched your horse to the Trent Baalke wagon and that was a huge, huge mistake on your behalf… one that will leave you with egg on your face for years to come. Trent Baalke players are now busting like 4th of July fireworks all over the place while Harbaugh, Fangio and Roman have moved on to greener pastures to try and build winners else where. You’re left holding the bag with the only excuse you can muster being, “We’ll that’s the way the cookie crumbles.”

    Isn’t what you’re really trying to say is “Guess I’ll have to watch shitty football for the next two decades… oh well. I can deal with that.” I won’t.

  209. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    If the Seahawks lose two because they miss their DC, imagine what losing their entire coaching staff and half their starters might do to a team.

  210. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Spit give it a rest already with Baalke and me.
    I’ve defended his position within the Organization.
    His job isn’t guaranteed either.

    Realistically, we’re stuck with the Owner.
    I’m not enthralled with him but, Owners don’t leave very frequently.
    I’ve endured plenty of crappy 9er football over the years.
    Given the timeline with Baalke, he’s managed to provide plenty of serviceable talent and depth.

    This game goes as the QB goes.
    If there’s continued improvement from Kaep and, Baalke can surround him with a complimentary cast, things can be successful.
    I’m not making excuses for anyone.

    I’m a 9er fan. Given the circumstances as they’ve been laid out over the offseason, it’s a tremendous challenge for any GM.
    With that pressure, comes a 1st time HC and numerous player turnover.

    I’ve gone on record for a 7-9 prediction.
    You simply live for their demise due to your disdain for Jed.
    As stated, Owners don’t leave.

    I support the guys playing the game in SF.
    With that comes all the politics associated with the organizational structure.
    If they’re all on the same page and working to succeed, I can live with it.

    You’re free to turn away if that’s what fits.
    Quit sh!tting on the rest of us who still hold some interest in seeing them regroup from all this upheaval.
    Tomsula could be the next Arians if the guys in the locker room buy what he’s selling.
    If not, he’s replaceable too.

  211. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear – I’ll answer your hypothetical with a Pete Carroll quote – “Our owner would never do that.”

    When Pete was asked how he’d feel if Paul Allen tweeted “unacceptable” that’s how Carroll replied. But it now applies to Carroll and the Seahawks, and Harbaugh and the 49ers. Paul Allen would never allow his team to implode the way Jed York has allowed the 49ers to implode. Paul Allen has actually run a business prior to buying the Seahawks. Jed York? Lucky sperm.

  212. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    NJ – Of course you want to downplay your love for Trent Baalke. Of course. Last year you were all over Trent Baalke as being so, so smart and one of the best GMs in the league. And you and I both know it because I told you he sucked and you wouldn’t listen. So now you’re gonna listen. You hitched your horse to the wrong wagon… and now you’re gonna hear about it, Baalke lover.

  213. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Baalke is head and shoulders over many a GM in this game Spit.
    Once again, if it’s someone you despise, everyone, including me, is wrong.

    I’ve stated my position on Baalke to be mentioned as one of the better GMs in the game.
    Disagree as you will.

    I’m not in it to be right.
    Whereas you, live for the failures.
    That’s simply the difference between an optimist and a pessimist.

  214. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Part of handling the GM duties is providing depth on the roster behind the starters.
    With that, comes the Cap Mgt nuances.

    You’ve beaten down the Gabbert signing since it occurred.
    Given a scenario, as was the case in Philly today with Romo going down, do you think having a ‘cheap’ option in Weeden is a better strategy to having Gabbert?

    Here’s a good place to gain some perspective, on what’s going on around the League regarding the backup plans, for the most important guy on the roster.


    I think Gabbert at $1.75M is a whole lot smarter than Luke McCown in NOLA ($665K), or Weeden in Dallas ($660K), just to provide a couple of examples.

    Tavaris Jackson is backing up Russell Wilson at a cost of $1.5M just as another point of reference.

    It’s not all about a few bad Draft choices by which I measure a GM’s accomplishments.

  215. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    I was disappointed when Gabbert didn’t play in preseason game 4.
    IMO he should have played at least one quarter and preferably the first half. Playing Thompson the entire game was wasting an opportunity to develop chemistry.
    It seemed like they saw that Gabbert did well in the previous games and thought he could only go downhill from there.

  216. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Honestly I used to think Baalke was a decent GM but then you apply the axiom that it takes 3 years to objectively evaluate a draft and you see you have nothing to show for 2012, it was a complete bust.
    In 5 drafts I would say no team has drafted less QBs than the Niners with 2. In the last couple of years the Niners have had
    at least 10 draft picks but Baalke just can’t bring himself to use one on a QB. Why is that?
    Iupati and Davis were good draft picks but they are no longer on the team. So you look at the other Olinemen drafted in the first 3 rounds and the common theme is they all have been drafted injured and have not panned out so far. Looney is gone and jury is out on Brandon Thomas. Marcus Martin starts and should as a third round pick but there are many questions on him and he is far from being an anchor. Like it or not Martin will probably be the center or LG next season after Boone leaves. Kilgore was a good 5th round pick if he can stay healthy. The other Oline draft picks are names that come and go with training camps cuts. The hope is Trenton Brown will develop but they had the same hopes for Luke Marquardt the OT from Azusa Pacific who disappeared before the 2014 season.

  217. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    In hindsight the better draft pick in 2015 would be CB Marcus Peters drafted one pick after Erik Armstead.
    Right now Peters is clearly the top CB in the draft starting and playing at a rookie of the year level having 3 ints after 2 games.

    However because of Jed’s edict that the Niners win with class
    Peters was downgraded because he had an off field incident.

    Jed talking too much to salvage his own image as a leader has hamstrung the team and painted them into a corner putting them at a disadvantage with a higher standard of behavior that puts
    some very talented players out of reach.

  218. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2021 Schedules
09/12: W 49ers 41, Lions 33
09/19: W 49ers 17, Eagles 11
09/26: L Packers 30, 49ers 28
10/03: L Seahawks 28, 49ers 21
10/10: L Cardinals 17, 49ers 10
10/17 BYE
10/24: L Colts 30, 49ers 18
10/31: W 49ers 33, Bears 22
11/07: L Cardinals 31, 49ers 17
11/15: W 49ers 31, Rams 10L
11/21: W 49ers 30, Jaguars 10
11/28: W 49ers 34, Vikings 26
12/05: L Seahawks 30, 49ers 23 12/12 · 10:00 AMCIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 · 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2021 Prognostications
Bullit: 12-5
Grumpy: 13-4
NJ49er: 11-6
Skeebers: 14-3
Winder: 12-5
Rob: 17-0
Spitblood: 0-17